Something about the incoming PvP that really disturbs me. The names. Fresh meat.

[JustinianKaiser]

As long as they don't gut out the rest of the game in regards to the PvP then I really couldn't care less.
The idea of them catering to the mentality of "I want to log into this persistent online world and be a roaming raging badass without participating in anything besides this single narrow facet of the game" is what bothers me.

Here's to hoping that everything gained in PvP is cosmetic/starter-entery level armor so somebody without friends or any aspirations to master the holistic microcosm of FFXIV doesn't get smashed in two seconds/there is no reward but new actions and or the tears of my enemies.

[Nanga]

...Everything...

/clap

Agree. And I don't think (at least, from my observation) that Yoshi really wants to let players get to the point of literally melting faces based on high-speed twitch reactionaries. If that were the case, we wouldn't have the instant off GCD issues, etc. And ya, it does rub me the wrong way as well when people "invade" an MMO to run around melting other player's faces and do nothing else. Call me an old-fashioned gamer, but I like to feel like I take a bit of ownership in the games I play, and to see other people so narrowly enjoying it by doing nothing more than griefing other people, I get offended by it.

[Scratchs]

Here's to hoping that everything gained in PvP is cosmetic/starter-entery level armor so somebody without friends or any aspirations to master the holistic microcosm of FFXIV doesn't get smashed in two seconds/there is no reward but new actions and or the tears of my enemies.

I'm hoping PVP is an alternate way to obtain good gear other than primals & relic quest. I am a fan of both PVE and PVP, I think there should be multiple ways to progress in the game.

[Vanidin]

I'm hoping PVP is an alternate way to obtain good gear other than primals & relic quest. I am a fan of both PVE and PVP, I think there should be multiple ways to progress in the game.

I think it should be pvp for pvp gear and pve for pve gear. Just because you know how to win at pvp doesn't mean you can effectively raid, and vice versa.

[tuseroni]

...so somebody without friends or any aspirations to master the holistic microcosm of FFXIV doesn't get smashed in two seconds/there is no reward but new actions and or the tears of my enemies.

nope, that's gonna happen. pvp becomes it own game with it's own culture and it's own set of norms and expectations and abuse of every bug or oversight, or anything which can give a 0.0001% increase in winability. pvp also tends towards homogeny as one set proves to be the absolute superior thing, some particular combination of equipment, skills, and class become end up having the best winability and becomes the most used thing.
this is every pvp in every game ever (dark souls, street fighter, fuck, even super smash brothers...)
then the nerfing begins. when one set becomes the clearly superior set things get nerffed, other things get buffed, PVE suffer for PVP because the PVP crowd pitch a fit once there is officially no reason to play anything other than that one archetype, and the other ones pitch a fit that their stuff gets nerffed and the PVE people pitch a fit because monster x is kicking their arse.

this does not end well....

[Nanga]

@tuseroni: I think with SE's stance against data mining, and no real-time parsing ability, the PvP community of 0.0001%'ers will really be turned off from this game, and that is a bonus for all of us.

[Krystal_Storm]

As long as they don't make it necessary to do PVP matches to get anywhere in the game (especially equipment) then i will be happy. The poor Oceania players will be screaming with joy should they be forced to pit themselves against USA or JPN connections again. -.- I personally would pay half my weekly income to get a USA connection but its not happening.

[Noroi_Kisaragi]

As long as they don't make it necessary to do PVP matches to get anywhere in the game (especially equipment) then i will be happy.

For PvE purposes, arena is just for Vanity Gear, because the PvP Gear looks like the best looking gear in the entire game, if the concept art is anything to go by. Can't wait.

[Khancer]

Damn that makes me want to play my Monk more.

[Telrunya]

The name thing doesn't bother me a lot, although I agree that having actual player names would be better.

Random question: Is there any info about what the PvP system will be? I hate WoW's arenas and GW2's Structured PvP mode... I have never been a fan of those kinds of systems. I much prefer Battleground-style content. Ultimately, I play FF14 for the PvE, but if there was indeed a battleground style pvp system coming, I think it would make my month ^^