Tired of Elitist? Just be patient

[FinagleABagel]

Look, if I want to do a fast AK speed run I have a list of requirements I know we need. I know what my DPS is and what my healing throughput is. If you don't meet those requirements, you don't come with me - end of story. I don't want to hear whining about "elitism". What it really is are people that want to be carried quickly through content. They want good gear fast and they aren't willing to do what I did to learn the dungeons and constantly improve my clear time. Sorry, I won't accommodate those players and you shouldn't either.

I'm equally ticked with players that use solo queues for speed runs. Ummm, no. The DF is for people learning the dungeon.

[Shirai]

While I am not anywhere close to a endgame level on my characters and won't be for a bit, I am what you call an elitist.
Before I attempt certain things I want to have myself built to maximum potential.
Meaning all of the abilities and gear available to me, which also includes properly leveled "subs" and the best gear that is available to me at that point.
And guess what, I expect the same from you!

While I won't call people out in public for being leeches, gimps or morons; If you're the cause of a screwup you can expect me to tell my friends to avoid you at all costs.

And I for one certainly welcome the iLevel requirement with open arms, now the game can tell you you are not ready to do certain content.
So I don't have to.

[ChickensEvil]

I am actually really glad for the gear requirements. I am not one to get upset with someone quickly and will even try to accommodate them, but when you queue up for AK and you have a level 45 weapon, half of your accessories are level 39 or less and the only "decent" gear you have is the AF gear... then you are really holding the group back. Maybe if I had more gear on my BLM I could have better carried the guy, but I myself am just barely over the threshold of gear requirements so it just doesn't work.

We had the AOE going off on the rock golems in the first boss (you should be able to kill them before that).
We had the bees staying up until well after the first knockback (they should be dead before you get pushed back).
And the last boss we hit the hard enrage... (ran out of time to see how much more we could improve). I didn't even know there was a hard enrage on the last boss until this run...

Nothing against the DPS pug with us, he seemed like a good player... he just lacked gear that no amount of skill can make up for. Because of this we wiped 1 time on the first boss, 6 times on the second, and 2 times on the last (before we ran out of time). Nevermind the trash pulls being... difficult... because of slow DPS.

There is NO reason to be running that dungeon with less than all 45+ gear... they hand it all to you in quests while leveling. And specifically, nothing less than a 49 white weapon since again... they hand it to you in a quest. If this is your second 50, then you should already have unlocked your GC level to be able to BUY the level 50 GC weapon. Please, do your group a favor and go get this stuff because you are keeping people from clearing the content.

[Melopahn]

<scratches head> meanwhile when i say something similar to this (with more tact, not calling them parasites or anything) I'm an elitist..

Its not how you say it, its who hears you say it. Most people who are the type of person to show up to a HM primal fight wearing whites are the same people who are going to make any excuse in order to feel better about what they do. I was doing a HM Ifrit we had a Scholar who had a total HP of 2076 and MP of 2260. He was not wearing any rings had 2 Ilevel 28 pieces (neck and bracelet- Both white) Even if we killed all the nails he would get 1 shot. His heals were not potent enough to negate any damage and when the other healer started telling him to focus on casting his shield he started freaking out.

After 3 solid attempts with him dying we decided to call it, I very kindly told him he should try running Wanderers or AK to get a few pieces and get his HP up to the point where he would live... his response was "Fucking elitest Melo, you think you're so good but you clearly suck or we could kill this guy"... thankfully our tank just called him a troll and left for us.

This happens all the time and something simple like a gear level requirement would make a huge difference in guaranteeing the people who try to join the fight at least have enough hp to survive the big nukes.

[Lstkaws]

If this is your second 50, then you should already have unlocked your GC level to be able to BUY the level 50 GC weapon. Please, do your group a favor and go get this stuff because you are keeping people from clearing the content.

you have to clear AK o get lvl 50 GC weaps. If you have already cleared it then yes people should know what is expected of them

[ChickensEvil]

you have to clear AK o get lvl 50 GC weaps. If you have already cleared it then yes people should know what is expected of them

which is why if you read the sentence before that I said there is a level 49 from a quest and a level 45 green from the GC. I mentioned this (the second 50) since I was anticipating people trying to say "well I already did the quest on one class so I can't do it again, dur hur". Go clear AK once on your FIRST class (shouldn't be hard, since you should have the correct gear) then you can get the gear from your GC for that class or any additional classes.

[Xbob42]

Elitism: the attitude or behavior of a person or group who regard themselves as belonging to an elite.


Elitism is NOT: wanting your group to be properly geared and for everyone to have a fucking clue.

[Lstkaws]

which is why if you read the sentence before that I said there is a level 49 from a quest and a level 45 green from the GC. I mentioned this (the second 50) since I was anticipating people trying to say "well I already did the quest on one class so I can't do it again, dur hur". Go clear AK once on your FIRST class (shouldn't be hard, since you should have the correct gear) then you can get the gear from your GC for that class or any additional classes.

Agreed, people should no to have these the second time around.