F.A.T.E: The Truth you don't want to hear.

[Suetan124]

I've run into far more people that don't know how to play their class than people that do. I don't FATE grind. The reason for this is of because I don't necessarily dislike FATEs, but while to do level faster, you don't get any good gear from them an they're nothing more than a giant horde of AoE attacks that cause massive frame drops. If I'm going to try t level my character to a certain point, I'm going to run dungeons.

I just did a Longstop run where the healer didn't know enough to use Esuna on a tank with 4x poison. I let telling them to is it, but they don't. Have FATEs ruined dungeons, I honestly think that they have.

[ChickensEvil]

I've run into far more people that don't know how to play their class than people that do....

Have FATEs ruined dungeons, I honestly think that they have.

No, bad players make bad players. You could remove all the FATE grinding and solo-questing gameplay and you would still find people that don't know how to do dungeon content. This game does a better job teaching you how to play if you pay attention, beyond that the other players should also be trying to teach them. Beyond that, there is likely no hope and you should just hope you never group with them again.

Guildheists are there specifically to teach players how to dungeon run
Class quests are there specifically to teach players how to play their class/job

One is optional, the other is not... however the game still forces you to do 7 or 8 dungeons at least 1 time from 1 to 50. So they are assuming that they will learn SOMETHING along the way... again, if they don't then that is not SE's fault, that is not YOUR fault, and that is certainly no reason to nerf FATEs.

Also, you have some horrible luck, because I have had vastly more groups of ok to very good players than not. having done tons of dungeon running from one to 50 including now 1 to 30 as a tank (so I have played with my fair share of "stupid dps")

[Shiyo]

Wow, there's people in this thread DEFENDING fates. I don't even know how that's possible.

Stop defending something that is horribly broken just because you feel offended if someone doesn't like something you like or doesn't like something in a game you enjoy,

You are holding the game back from becoming a much better game by defending things that need changed.