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  1. #11
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    Teeko's Avatar
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    Kit Tinkerton
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    Lamia
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Shame monks are so low... are dragoons really that much better?
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  2. #12
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    No, Monks are just more susceptible to boss mechanics.

    Monks bring slightly more defensive utility than Dragoons (traited Mantra). Dragoons bring slightly more offensive utility (Disembowel, assuming you have Bards).

    Monks do slightly higher sustained single target DPS if they're able to position and don't lose contact for 10s on targets.
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  3. #13
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    Teeko's Avatar
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    Kit Tinkerton
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    Lamia
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I'll probably try out both anyway, thanks for clarifying
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  4. #14
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    Ashen Valanar
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoterius View Post
    You know the parser is messed up right now for summoners... it counts ALL the DoTs of the whole group into the Summoners DPS for some reason. They really need to fix that.
    You know you can test your DPS solo on dummies and you'll get the more or less accurate results...
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  5. #15
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    Banana Jenkins
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    Cerberus
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    Lancer Lv 46
    I wouldnt suggest you to play a Bard although they are very usefull. Just because there are soooooo many of them. Everyone plays one. And because they get all hyped by the forum and everywhere even more ppl will play them. PLay Bard only if you really like the class not because every party could use one. There will be always enough Bards anyway.
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  6. #16
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    King Berry
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Basically it goes like this

    Bard>BLM>MNK>DRG>SMN

    Right now parser for smn count everyone dots making him look like hes out dpsing.
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  7. #17
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    Character
    Solas Lightweaver
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    BLM is a class with some good skills that maybe people don't appreciate as much. When a healer is under pressure due to a lot of adds it's the BLM that can burn them down AND CC them effectively taking them out of the battle. Bard might have better sustained dps but the BLM's burst and CC's are also really important and shouldn't be so easily discounted.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingBerry View Post
    Basically it goes like this

    Bard>BLM>MNK>DRG>SMN

    Right now parser for smn count everyone dots making him look like hes out dpsing.
    that's not how it works, and sMN is definitely not on the bottom. the bug with the most widely used parser is bio and bio II (specifically) are being inflated due to them not having an initial hit of damage. It's not 'counting everyone's dots.' You also need to remember to add together the master and pet's damage.
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  9. #19
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    Snuggles Unicorn
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    SMN is tricky. DRG, MNK, BRD and BLM with good gear can derp with their skills and still put up respectable damage. SMN, on the other hand, is really, really easy to mess up.

    A well played SMN with matching gear can be equal to or higher than every other DPS class, depending on mechanics. The problem is that most SMN's I've seen have no idea what they are doing. Using Garuda to clear trash instead of Ifirt? Not properly timing Raging Strikes+DoTs+Contaigen on bosses? Having huge swaths of DoT downtime because you're not managing your timers? Casting the strongest and most useful DoT (Shadow Flare) last? Not managing Aetherflows properly? If a SMN messes up any of these, their DPS is going to fall off a cliff.

    In any event, as it stands now, BRD is easily the most wanted DPS thanks to how easy they are to play (ranged, full mobility), but for all the other classes, especially SMN, it really comes down to play competence.
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  10. #20
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    Mad Lax
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by savant07 View Post
    You know you can test your DPS solo on dummies and you'll get the more or less accurate results...
    Do you have any numbers to make up your word ? like a pharser screenshot or full report ?
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