So what do you do endgame

[Churchill]

Just make sure that your suggestions take into account the fact that no developer has infinite manpower, time, or money, and you can't expect them to find a genie that will grant you three wishes and a bigger pair of pants.

FFXIV launched with less content than GW2, a smaller map than GW2, the same number of classes (of which most were already present 3 years ago), no PVP (GW2 has two forms of PvP) and is on the same content update schedule (and at times, slower, since GW2 events are more creative and intricate). ANet hotfixes their game constantly when bugs are found, patches don't take downtime (you simply logout and download it, log back in), they have overflow servers for when someones homeworld has too many people in a zone.

GW2 is B2P.

FFXIV is P2P.

Expect more.

[Trenma]

FFXIV launched with less content than GW2, a smaller map than GW2, the same number of classes (of which most were already present 3 years ago), no PVP (GW2 has two forms of PvP) and is on the same content update schedule (and at times, slower, since GW2 events are more creative and intricate). ANet hotfixes their game constantly when bugs are found, patches don't take downtime (you simply logout and download it, log back in), they have overflow servers for when someones homeworld has too many people in a zone.

GW2 is B2P.

FFXIV is P2P.

Expect more.

While I agree we should expect a little more, GW2 had years of development. ARR was completely re-made from the ground up within 2 years with 6 months of testing. That's a fairly fast turn-around

[Folsom]

GW2 is B2P.

FFXIV is P2P.

So why are you here on the FFXIV forums instead of playing GW2? Just want to find some stuff to satisfy your whining quota? Clearly, there are differences between the two games (a quick Google search shows FAR, FAR more differences and opinions about which is better than the simplistic comparisons you made). If you want SE to fix what you see as problems here, you have to explain what you want in detail, constructively, and possibly make some suggestions. You can't just turn into an anti-cheerleader and go "B2P P2P MMO RPG" and expect them to fix it with magic or expect your frustration and sarcastic twaddle to do it for you. "I expect less downtime" isn't enough; if the game is designed complexly enough that they can't use the same patch roll out model as GW2, then I can guarantee they'll be happier to lose you as a whining forum goer than do something that might negatively affect the game for the rest of the player base, especially for something that's a minor inconvenience at worst (but is really fun to blow way out of proportion and throw a fit about on a forum because that's what forums are for! Apparently).

Expect more.

Whenever I open up a delicious carton of rocky road ice cream, I don't rage because the marshmallows aren't quite as big as this other brand's even though the chocolate is better. Not everything has to be a stupid, black and white, rage or love competition over minutia. Obviously I'd prefer there to be less downtime and have things work more smoothly, but I'm not about to hit the histrionic button at this stage.

While I agree we should expect a little more, GW2 had years of development. ARR was completely re-made from the ground up within 2 years with 6 months of testing. That's a fairly fast turn-around

^ That

[HurtigeKarl]

FFXIV launched with less content than GW2, a smaller map than GW2, the same number of classes (of which most were already present 3 years ago), no PVP (GW2 has two forms of PvP) and is on the same content update schedule (and at times, slower, since GW2 events are more creative and intricate). ANet hotfixes their game constantly when bugs are found, patches don't take downtime (you simply logout and download it, log back in), they have overflow servers for when someones homeworld has too many people in a zone.

GW2 is B2P.

FFXIV is P2P.

Expect more.

GW2 was a piece of shit game where the solution to becoming wealthy ingame = open your wallet for those of us who have a decent paying job. The crafting there was completely inferior to the one we have in FFXIV now.

So yeah, FFXIV is far better, in my eyes.

[Churchill]

GW2 was a piece of shit game where the solution to becoming wealthy ingame = open your wallet for those of us who have a decent paying job. The crafting there was completely inferior to the one we have in FFXIV now.

So yeah, FFXIV is far better, in my eyes.

You make money in GW2 the same as any other game, be smarter than other people and exploit their stupidity for profit.

[HurtigeKarl]

You make money in GW2 the same as any other game, be smarter than other people and exploit their stupidity for profit.

For many players, the most time efficient solution is to simply just open their real life wallet. Since the assumed goal was to become wealthy in GW2, converting real life money into gw2 currency, is extremely time efficient. One could transfer 10 grand in less than 10 minutes.