Enforce this or no?

[Celes_Chere]

Do not take under-geared players to Dhorme Chimera for Relic progression, use it as a control to keep out the weeds.

I think players need to understand they should grind and put some effort into Darklight Gear or at least have AK gear.

People are complaining about Fates and under-geared players, well this solution should suffice, don't blindly pick-up people. Make sure they earned their place, because there are definitely a lot of people getting DL gear. Take them before the trash, put in a little more time searching.

Thank you, carry-on and enjoy the game.

[Sinth]

Chimera and Hydra are both easy fights which have no enrage timers or environmental limitations. There is no reason a group of fresh 50s with AF cannot complete both fights.

[FinagleABagel]

Chimera and Hydra are both easy fights which have no enrage timers or environmental limitations. There is no reason a group of fresh 50s with AF cannot complete both fights.

Agreed. Neither of those fights warrant a gear check.

[Celes_Chere]

I know but this is the "control point" once you let them pass, there is no more control. You're letting people pass this precipice it may be 2 feet wide, but this is the only place to stop the trash. Am I wrong that this is the only control point?

[Sinth]

iLevel limits will most likely be here in December. We are beating a dead horse here, and even then, those limits will be placed on instances only. If you don't want someone with low gear in your party, dont invite them or kick them if you are going to hold people to a ridiculous standard. Needing gear for Titan is one thing, but Chimera and Hydra? Please. My FC could win those fights in our 40s.

[Celes_Chere]

Hey, no need to bring the horse into this, I am merely offering advice on how to keep the trash out PUG- HM Titan and HM Garuda. But if ILevel requirements hit these Duty Finders, kupos.

[KogaDrake]

Chimera and Hydra take anyone to, they are jokes... Ifrit is also a joke. Its realy the last 2 fights for relic that take more gear than AF and w/e jewlery you had at 50.

Is it easier with more gear? well of coarse it is, but even without the fights are jokes. To be honest you should HAVE to do them in AF in order to progress the quest to show you have some skill, anyone can wait till way outgear and get by...

[Leonas]

Next thing we'll see from folks is requiring iLvl gear from Coil to do HM Titan.

[Celes_Chere]

Chimera and Hydra take anyone to, they are jokes... Ifrit is also a joke. Its realy the last 2 fights for relic that take more gear than AF and w/e jewlery you had at 50.

Is it easier with more gear? well of coarse it is, but even without the fights are jokes. To be honest you should HAVE to do them in AF in order to progress the quest to show you have some skill, anyone can wait till way outgear and get by...

I am sure you are right, I haven't done the fights yet because I been doing other things, I simply see too many complaints so I thought I'd offer a solution. Coming from TERA and mastering Manaya's Core Hard Mode, I haven't found anything in ARR to be remotely close to as challenging. FFXI taught us discipline, MCHM teaches you donuts are bad for you.

[Pellegri]

I am sure you are right, I haven't done the fights yet because I been doing other things, I simply see too many complaints so I thought I'd offer a solution. Coming from TERA and mastering Manaya's Core Hard Mode, I haven't found anything in ARR to be remotely close to as challenging. FFXI taught us discipline, MCHM teaches you donuts are bad for you.

Haven't done the fights and yet making suggestions to force the fights to require more than starting 50 gear? You're seeing complaints because even going 1-50 there are still a lot of people out there that still don't know wtf to do, no amount of gear will change that and that's how it's always been in mmos.