Enforce this or no?

[Celes_Chere]

Do not take under-geared players to Dhorme Chimera for Relic progression, use it as a control to keep out the weeds.

I think players need to understand they should grind and put some effort into Darklight Gear or at least have AK gear.

People are complaining about Fates and under-geared players, well this solution should suffice, don't blindly pick-up people. Make sure they earned their place, because there are definitely a lot of people getting DL gear. Take them before the trash, put in a little more time searching.

Thank you, carry-on and enjoy the game.

[Sinth]

Chimera and Hydra are both easy fights which have no enrage timers or environmental limitations. There is no reason a group of fresh 50s with AF cannot complete both fights.

[FinagleABagel]

Chimera and Hydra are both easy fights which have no enrage timers or environmental limitations. There is no reason a group of fresh 50s with AF cannot complete both fights.

Agreed. Neither of those fights warrant a gear check.

[Celes_Chere]

I know but this is the "control point" once you let them pass, there is no more control. You're letting people pass this precipice it may be 2 feet wide, but this is the only place to stop the trash. Am I wrong that this is the only control point?

[Sinth]

iLevel limits will most likely be here in December. We are beating a dead horse here, and even then, those limits will be placed on instances only. If you don't want someone with low gear in your party, dont invite them or kick them if you are going to hold people to a ridiculous standard. Needing gear for Titan is one thing, but Chimera and Hydra? Please. My FC could win those fights in our 40s.

[Rymia]

Chimera and Hydra are both easy fights which have no enrage timers or environmental limitations. There is no reason a group of fresh 50s with AF cannot complete both fights.

The OP's point is that by keeping these low gear players out of Chimera and Hydra it stops them trying to go to Garuda and Titan in their trash gear.

Lol, I have seen people spamming relic weapon for CM speed runs....lol fail. You can do speed runs in vendor gear. If you need a relic weapon and DL gear for a CM seepd run you should feel bad, it does not go any faster.

A group of full DL+ Relic weapons will do alot more damage then a group of AF+level30 trash weapons so yes it does go faster.

[Ruprect]

The OP's point is that by keeping these low gear players out of Chimera and Hydra it stops them trying to go to Garuda and Titan in their trash gear.



A group of full DL+ Relic weapons will do alot more damage then a group of AF+level30 trash weapons so yes it does go faster.

No, I have done it both ways numerous time. It literally can be like 3-5 mins faster in a full DL group. OMG you might save yourself 15-20 mins a day. I have pugged it in the DF as fast as the SR group went that I got into. You can only go so fast.

People can do what they want, if they want that I will just lol and do my thing. I just think it is funny to do CM in full DL gear when the only point of farming it is to get DL gear.

[Sinth]

The OP's point is that by keeping these low gear players out of Chimera and Hydra it stops them trying to go to Garuda and Titan in their trash gear.



A group of full DL+ Relic weapons will do alot more damage then a group of AF+level30 trash weapons so yes it does go faster.

Then OP's point is irrelevant as iLevel limits will be released for DF instances in the near future.

[Leonas]

Then OP's point is irrelevant as iLevel limits will be released for DF instances in the near future.

This.

When iLvl requirements get slapped on instances, then all this " You're too undergeared because we say so. " will end up being irrevelant. At this point you can meet the GAME'S requirement for the iLvl and tell the people wanting you to be overgeared for some fight to go take a long walk off a short pier for THEIR ludicrously huge requirement of overgearing for everything below that iLvl dungeon to go take a long walk off a bloody short pier.