Quote Originally Posted by ApplePie View Post
You could get several of those spells from BCNM/KSNM. I don't like artificial barries I have to spam to get spells that everyone needs. I don't like them either to get pieces of gear that are only good for a moment until new gear is added. I'd rather there not be reputation grinds that are required for spells or gear. If they give novelty items, sure, otherwise, no thanks.
You're right, I forgot about BCNM.KSNM. I don't see these as artificial barriers though. They were a mechanism in game to give the player more content with substantial rewards. The questlines weren't unreliable either, if you completed it,you got the reward.

I think the main point I want to make is that it's not enough to simply give us a fame system for the sake of having a fame system. It's only going to be well received by the majority of players if the rewards are actually worth getting. And I don't agree that novelty items are the only way to go either. They can be mixed in sure, but novelty items are just that, novelties. In the end, they usually aren't worth using in actual play, but rather just to run around town in, and then only have a coolness factor until the next novelty item is released.

IF we get a fame system, and IF the only rewards are to get an extra line of NPC chat and access to more useless quests, then I'll be very disappointed.