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  1. #61
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    Rymia's Avatar
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    Rymia Ayrin
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonium View Post
    Guys i am full DL with my warrior and i take load of damage... and when the heart is explode, i take so much damage, better get a pala for MT him ?

    I realy seem underpowered for MT with my warrior, even with my gear...

    I need some advice how down him.

    He gets a new ability after the heart dies that only hits the tank and it hits him fucking hard, It's normal for you to take a lot of damage in this phase.

    But I will say this PLD is a better tank for Titan because of this spike damage it only drops a geared PLD to around half health, it almost kills the WAR. You are underpowered.

    For advice learn the rotation Titan uses and try to save what cooldowns you have for each buster he does(or yell at the healers to top you up before and after)
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  2. #62
    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Yes i have keep my cd, i use some défensive stuff and the 15% evade...

    And when i will take load damage i try up my HP with two beast thing i don't know how say the skill in English. But that heal me at nearly 2 K, and with the thing up my hp + 20%, i get like 1 K + Hp recover.

    But even all of this, the healer need to heal me so much, and heal so much theirself because of his aoe...

    Did that can pass if a pala tank him and i dps ? would be better i guess, i am little sad to see my class are underpowered at end game, i hope something will be done, because i don't play a warrior to be a dps or a offtank.

    If i was a warrior with a job stuff only, ok this is my fault, but full ilvl 70, i am geared, all should be fine. In fact, this is wrong, i still take so much thing.
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  3. #63
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    Sentinel Smith
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Sadly, Harmonium, Warriors are not the best tanks for Titan. Hopefully something about the fight changes so that you can have the standard 2 tank setup, and it could give something important for a possible Warrior off-tank to do that really contributes to the fight. It's not so much that your class is underpowered, but they fill a slightly different niche, a niche which the game really doesn't provide you very often end-game, which, paradoxically to my previous statement, means that you are technically underpowered, but only because they haven't tuned the content to include you.
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  4. #64
    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    Moogle
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    Lancer Lv 50
    So can i take a pala for mt titan and i dps the titan without defiance ? Maybe that can pass, or did i take 3 healer ? I realy want pass it... but yes i will sad to feel underpowered about big damage, or spike damage.
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  5. #65
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    Shaenrael Calgarawyn
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    Lamia
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xbob42 View Post
    Sadly, Harmonium, Warriors are not the best tanks for Titan. Hopefully something about the fight changes so that you can have the standard 2 tank setup, and it could give something important for a possible Warrior off-tank to do that really contributes to the fight. It's not so much that your class is underpowered, but they fill a slightly different niche, a niche which the game really doesn't provide you very often end-game, which, paradoxically to my previous statement, means that you are technically underpowered, but only because they haven't tuned the content to include you.
    There is no use (or niche) for a WAR currently.

    As off tanks we do less DPS. As main tanks we do slightly more but not enough to matter, and it doesn't make up for the massive disparity in durability. The only situation in which the Warrior really shines is situations where there are more than 3 adds to pick up and they are immune to sleep. In every other situation a PLD will be able to do a better job than a WAR. Main tanking and Off tanking. Though there is a case to be made that WAR has an advantage in 4 man content. But since 4 mans are trivial this is a pointless advantage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonium View Post
    So can i take a pala for mt titan and i dps the titan without defiance ? Maybe that can pass, or did i take 3 healer ? I realy want pass it... but yes i will sad to feel underpowered about big damage, or spike damage.
    Sorry man, we picked the wrong class. Titan is possible for a WAR to tank, but not only will it require more gear from you, but also more gear from the healers as well. Once they have their relic weapons, they should be able to keep you up without too much trouble.

    The basic strategy is to save a cooldown for mountain buster (the 4500 damage hit) and then as soon as he does it, use Inner beast, and have your healers make sure you are ALWAYS at full health before mountain buster. He will do something like Rock Buster, Auto Attack, Auto Attack, Mountain Buster, Auto Attack. So after the mountain buster healers have to really dump some heals into you.
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  6. #66
    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    There is no use for a WAR currently.
    You are right but i am stuck, because no one need me

    I need pass titan... i need tips for pass it with my warrior. :/
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  7. #67
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    Historia Reiss
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonium View Post
    You are right but i am stuck, because no one need me

    I need pass titan... i need tips for pass it with my warrior. :/
    As terrible as it sounds, it is still the best to just level up Pld now if you want to progress as a tank.
    Given the chance that you passed Titan on War, you simply won't be able to squeeze by Caduceus when it two shots you.
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  8. #68
    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    I will not play paladin, i play a war sorry. Ok i will try something, thanks guys i will try !
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  9. #69
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    Judge Justus
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 78
    If I remember correctly don't you have to beat Titan HM in the class you want your relic for?

    I'm also having trouble tanking him as warrior. Undergeared Paladins in AK armor do better then me in Almost full darklight. They have problems maintaining agro but they have better survivability than me. =/
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  10. #70
    Player Harmonium's Avatar
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    Empereur Souther
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Yes i have see that, i am so sad to see this ! A pala with AK armor are so far better than me with FULL DL.

    I am so sad, i lost hope everyday i play my warrior... I realy need pass titan...
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