This Bard stacking thing needs to be dealt with

[RathSkybreaker]

That's why you put all your OGCDs on one macro and tap it every time you press another button.

OMGHRZ BARD IZ H4RD.

I just put the OGCDS on every macro, to avoid having to hit two buttons, also , blood letter has a higher potency than heavy shot.. just as you always hit straight shot crits when they pop regardless of where you are your rotation, because the crit is better damage than a heavy shot.


And yes, bard isn't hard at all. Seriously, anyone who says it is , is bad and wants to feel better about themselves playing a class that has insane damage because of it's range and the amount of utility it has.

[Darian]

Sounds like no one here can agree if bard is good,bad,or in the middle. So it must be working as intended. Good job SE.

[Pmtranger]

I just put the OGCDS on every macro, to avoid having to hit two buttons, also , blood letter has a higher potency than heavy shot.. just as you always hit straight shot crits when they pop regardless of where you are your rotation, because the crit is better damage than a heavy shot.

Yes but if your using Bloodletter before heavy shot its a dps loss, The fact is the macro no matter what way you assign it makes you cast Bloodletter if its of CD meaning you delay your heavy shot and waste 1 gcd which is huge as it stacks up pretty quickly, if you think using Bloodletter before heavy shot is not a dps loss and in fact better you really no 0 about this class, using heavy shot then just manually pressing Bloodletter is just more dps as its 2 attacks inside of 1 gcd rather than 1 in 1 = more dps, so the macro is just terrible and completely inefficient way of dpsing.

[Mikedizzy]

Yes but if your using Bloodletter before heavy shot its a dps loss, The fact is the macro no matter what way you assign it makes you cast Bloodletter if its of CD meaning you delay your heavy shot and waste 1 gcd which is huge as it stacks up pretty quickly, if you think using Bloodletter before heavy shot is not a dps loss and in fact better you really no 0 about this class, using heavy shot then just manually pressing Bloodletter is just more dps as its 2 attacks inside of 1 gcd rather than 1 in 1 = more dps, so the macro is just terrible and completely inefficient way of dpsing.

What you are not getting here is that most of the time the proc hits is off us using a Heavy Shot so we do not lose anything off the GCD it get used instantaneously after the heavy shot...if it gets triggered off one of our other macros then there is a small loss in time but not significant. In a heated boss fight you cannot always be looking down at your hot bar 100% of the time because you are looking for visual cues on screen and in different areas...you can actually miss the Bloodletter trigger more often and lose more time by trying to be a bad ass and do it all manual. These macros are brilliant (Thanks MrHappy) and ensure that you never miss a Bloodletter or Misery's End and waste DPS opportunity. Unless you have some calcs to back up this very slight loss in time compared to your "Human Error" factor of trying to hit them manually you go ahead and provide that otherwise you are not making a very valid point and just ranting. A ton of top tier players would not be using this if it made them worse players...trush me.


EDIT: >>> Thanks Kataly...

[kataly]

^ I like your purple font.

[Trunks]

Sounds like no one here can agree if bard is good,bad,or in the middle. So it must be working as intended. Good job SE.

Is the non sequitur your rank 3 LB?

[svann]

nm,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Nettle]

Mathematically, spamming macros with BL/ME vs manually... macros are indeed a (small) loss in dps. Realistically, the fight needs to be extended and include at least 10+ uses of OGCD abilities for it to be noticeable. The longer the fight, the more noticeable it becomes.

BL has an animation delay of about 1 second. Assume you have a basic macro ordered by HS/ME/BL. Say you hit that macro with ~1/4 second left on your GCD. HS isn't up so ME/BL triggers and you cut into .75s of your GCD free time. Your next HS triggers .75s later than it would have if you used it first.

Now assume you, on average, cut into 1/4 second of your GCD with every BL/ME/buff use (with an actual possible range of 0-1s loss). After 10 uses you are a full ability behind someone who optimizes the GCD timings.

So while the people arguing against macros are correct, the impact of this loss is debatable. The argument becomes more valid the longer a fight drags on.

[Imoye]

If you want to play a game using macros, go ahead, just don't call a class eezmode because you choose to use macros.

That said, I do feel my bard isn't as challenging as I'd like it to be, so probably I'm going to reroll. I would really appreciate SE making bard a bit more complex now that we're still in the game's early stages

[SaveTheSunF1R3x]

^ PFFFFFFFFT. Whatno. Requiem does NOT buff brd's dps by 60%. Maybe 1.5% on the off chance you have a bard who actually uses Flaming Arrow for anything but adds

Yea you know cuz we totally don't have a wind Dot thats up 100% of the time =_____= please play bard before making your self seem like an ass