This Bard stacking thing needs to be dealt with

[RathSkybreaker]

I must admit is is funny when someone who has yet to clear the top content says that the top guilds are "doing it wrong"

Hate to say it but you're kind of making bard sound harder than it is, and monk can definitely do better if the player doesn't suck, so maybe your monks just suck. Bard is great dps , the rotation is really easy if you macro it, you're making it sound like it's rocket science but in reality once you get the rotation down it's a cake walk. I out DPS relic bards who don't know their rotation. Yes, you cleared turn 4, but we have a group on turn 5 as well, and the only reason they keep bards is for Silence rotation. I never said it was wrong, but MNK's CAN out damage bards, their damage potential is insane if they are geared.

What's a bard's rotation?

Straight shots, buffs, two dots, and never miss your blood letters which can be completely mitigated by programming misery's end and blood letter on every macro you use so you never miss one. I guarantee you if I was in the same gear as you I would do just as much damage as you, but I also bet that a monk who knew how to play his class would out dps you. Hand down. Bard is easy mode, you have to worry about nothing, you can macro your entire rotation into 5 - 8 buttons, don't sit here and try to make it sound harder than it actually is.

Also, a good group rarely has a bard use songs mid fight, and if they do, they aren't on for very long anyway so you barely notice the 20% damage reduction, again , you're making it sound like it's super hard, but have you even sat on monk for 5 minutes? They have like 50 more things to worry about, on bard you literally stand in one place, mash 5 buttons, and make sure you're hitting your procs and not letting your debuffs fall, that's it. Say otherwise and I call bullshit, because that's really all they have.

Buffs ---> Straight Shot up always --> Two Debuffs --> Spam your move that gives straight shot procs, rinse and repeat for infinity.
- never miss blood letter
-never miss misery's end

[Eckoh]

Hate to say it but you're kind of making bard sound harder than it is, and monk can definitely do better if the player doesn't suck, so maybe your monks just suck. Bard is great dps , the rotation is really easy if you macro it, you're making it sound like it's rocket science but in reality once you get the rotation down it's a cake walk.

if you are macroing like that you are bad plain and simple... monks out DPS bad bard that think a macro is the way to go...

[Lecreuset]

damn, people cry about everything, don't they?

[Pmtranger]

if you are macroing like that you are bad plain and simple... monks out DPS bad bard that think a macro is the way to go...

I 100% agree People who are using this stupid bloodletter macro are just bad, Bards are easy to play in general you can use that dumb macro and do ok dps but if you do it manually and actually min max and play correctly without the macro and use Cd's correctly a Bard is really strong and actually fun and challenging to play, People who use the macro are losing out on dps and making the class look bad end of story.

[pandabearcat]

Even if you don't use the macro, mashing bloodletter in the middle of your GCD's is not really rocket science =P

I don't understand how you can say Bards are hard to play.

They literally have ONE moving part, and no downtime to movement.

If you want to think about snapshotting dots, okay, pop your cd's and then use your two, 0 cast time, dots =P

Its really, really not that hard.

[RathSkybreaker]

if you are macroing like that you are bad plain and simple... monks out DPS bad bard that think a macro is the way to go...

How is not macroing any different than hitting it when it procs, if anything it's more efficient, you're trying to make yourself sound like a bad ass by not using macros, but it is literally the same exact thing. I guarantee you if we parsed it would be identical. I get 200 DPS with a garuda bow and one piece of darklight and you've already said that 300 is a bit much, so please, tell me how difficult it would be to jump 50-100 dps with an actual good weapon.

[Sterob]

How is not macroing any different than hitting it when it procs, if anything it's more efficient, you're trying to make yourself sound like a bad ass by not using macros, but it is literally the same exact thing. I guarantee you if we parsed it would be identical. I get 200 DPS with a garuda bow and one piece of darklight and you've already said that 300 is a bit much, so please, tell me how difficult it would be to jump 50-100 dps with an actual good weapon.

1 word for you GCD. if you understand that you will know why manual > macro

[savant07]

How is not macroing any different than hitting it when it procs, if anything it's more efficient, you're trying to make yourself sound like a bad ass by not using macros, but it is literally the same exact thing. I guarantee you if we parsed it would be identical. I get 200 DPS with a garuda bow and one piece of darklight and you've already said that 300 is a bit much, so please, tell me how difficult it would be to jump 50-100 dps with an actual good weapon.

All instant cast come with 0.5-1 sec animation time. Bloodletter has 1 second animation time. If you can use Heavy Shot but then instead use Bloodletter, you are delaying that Heavy Shot making that GCD for that Heavy Shot 3.5 sec.

This goes for blowing all cooldowns too. You can weave an attack like Heavy Shot in between blowing DPS cooldowns.

[RathSkybreaker]

All instant cast come with 0.5-1 sec animation time. Bloodletter has 1 second animation time. If you can use Heavy Shot but then instead use Bloodletter, you are delaying that Heavy Shot making that GCD for that Heavy Shot 3.5 sec.

This goes for blowing all cooldowns too. You can weave an attack like Heavy Shot in between blowing DPS cooldowns.

The thing with macro is this.

You string it like

Straight Shot
Bloodletter
Misery's end

and you put the last two lines on every ability you use in your rotation. If you are spamming the buttons when you press them , you will never miss a proc, because it will jump to blood letter if the GCD is up.

And if you're losing 1-2 seconds in a 3 minute fight, 1 misplaced heavy shot will not bring your dps that high unless you are doing insane damage. I'm talking like 800 a hit.

[EasymodeX]

That's why you put all your OGCDs on one macro and tap it every time you press another button.

OMGHRZ BARD IZ H4RD.