9 Coke required now? (or other)

[Reika]

Based on what i see, its like they are trying to phase out crafting slowly but surely. I was playing/subbing to 1.0/2.0 because the game did have a dynamic crafting/gathering system if you didn't feel like the standard MMO smash/camp. Now, not so much. It pretty much any MMO out there, best gear is dropped. If i wanted that i'll go back to EQ or something like that.

Exactly how I feel. I got into FFXIV because crafting and gathering weren't typical MMO, far more engaging and actually mattered from low level all the way up. They've pretty much killed it for the low level crafter, and max level crafts have very little power gain over dropped with the best being unworthy of obtaining due to the excessive amount of time it would take to grind the mats vs just getting darklight. Even trying to make a Grade IV Materia takes a lifetime. Don't they know how long they made it take to spiritbond the crafting or gathering gear that would even have a remote chance of turning GIV?! And battle gear takes nearly as long...

I don't even know why I did a 180 day sub now. Should have just done 1 month until they showed proof of not planning to kill off the viability and actual fair cost of end-game crafting.

BTW, Japanese thread has 115 likes now. Fixed the link on the OP, wasn't working for some reason. Wonder how they can ignore us crafters for so long. Server issues are pressing and all, but they should have other people that are not working on server issues, namely the people responsible for this change, that can come answer for this mess.

[Gamemako]

Yup, sadly, this is the reality of it. No reason to even make quint-melded two-stars at any point. That said, even if it were just 1 coke instead, people still wouldn't bother because the materia alone takes much longer to create than just farming the damned dungeon, nevermind the other mats and having to pay the crafter.

Honestly, it's just an extension of the entire design. I could make HQ armors for leveling, or I could get one of the abundant Aetherial items which is just HQ with random melds. Green drops and GC items are flat-out better than anything a crafter can make. That means you're only ever just filling things out slots from poor luck or between GC sets, and easily 95% of my item sales have gone to other crafters or gatherers instead of DoW/DoM. In the endgame, there's no reason to consider crafted stuff. I've never had to meld a single level 50 item as 50 ARM or LTW that wasn't the relic weapon meld for MNK.

[Tith]

Crafting gear should reword players who have the skill ro make it, it should require LESS stones to make then Dark Light requires to get at the very least. If i want to avoid Dark light and HQ vanya robe set will still cost far more in both time mets stones and effort then the Darklight ever will unless my math is horribly off.

this needs to be addressed, as it stands whats the point of crafting at all?

[Ahlen]

I realized just today how many tomes it would actually take to make one item.

And suddenly I don't feel like paying a subscription for this game.

[Rainsford]

I realized just today how many tomes it would actually take to make one item.

And suddenly I don't feel like paying a subscription for this game.

The i70 bracelets cost about 2,000.

[enasccis]

I'm hoping that the price for coke and other mats will drop considerably in a month or 2 and that new recipes such as ilvl 60 and 80 gears and weapons will arrive in 2.1. Also I think crafters will play a bigger role in crafting PvP weapons and gears.

[Cynthis]

I hate farming dungeons but love to make my own gear and to me this seems like a pathetic attempt to subsidize players who do nothing but run dungeons by forcing me to buy ridiculous amount of mats from them. Well I won't, purely on principal. I will wait until 2.1 and hope they change this. If they don't, well by then I will have finished the main story and will be taking my leave of Eorzea. It's no longer a place where a crafter or gatherer can live happily.

[oceanlord]

i do agree the coke is overpriced, stupid price really but don't increase the requirement! full hq isn't enough for both requirement and materia is too damn expensive
maybe legacy server doesn't have this problem, but new server materia and crafted thing is still expensive

[cloverkitty]

The part that bothers me was the reason that this change was made.
There really was not.

There was just a little update between Phase 4 and Early access that stated adjustments were made to NPC purchasable materials to extend the life of the content.
That is probably the most slap in the face we don't give a flip about crafters update i have ever seen. There was no other reason to do it and there was no other update around that time. Just a single silent kick in the gonads.

I try not to think about it too much as the more I do the more i start looking at other game options. I also don't see how it did squat to extend content as due to the cost the community has pretty much just skipped it and act like all of the 2 star gear does not exist.
If they do reverse it in the 2.1 patch there won't really be a point as everyone will have already long since moved past it. They even made the accessories (requires more tombs than gear) and 2 of the craftable minions unobtainable due to that.

In general though I have moved on and don't even waste my time looking into making those, so if they fixed it would not notice anyway, and I seriously doubt the rest of the community would either.

In the future if they fix it they would probably just become spiritbond pieces for making tier 5 materia which is a shame because it is some of the best looking and most unique gear there is.

[Ahlen]

So many stupid things happened between Phase 3/4.

The change to Dark Matter being farmable, how many coke it takes, etc. It seems to me they're doing everything they can to screw players and slow them down from eating through their tiny bit of content. (2 4 man dungeons at 50, really?)