The new Standard of Gaming?

[Bouteiller]

Can this trash post be deleted already?

Dude is no where near the remotely difficult stuff. How can you expect an MMO to start off hard? Not everyone is an MMO vet, as a result, vets have to deal with training wheel levels. Thats pretty much 1-40. At 40 bosses, and maybe 35 I'd say Qarn's last boss is a good noob melter, have more mechanics and more abilities that will one shot you for being stupid. I'm farming HM Ifrit right now, so I still have yet to see the famed HM Garuda or Titan. So really, unless you have beaten everything, then you can't say nothing was a challenge.

To be a stuck up, snobby, little brat and say I'm god's gift to gaming nothing is a challenge for me and neither is this is pathetic. Go home, little boy.

[Brevity]

I remember when bosses had skill check rather than gear checks. Granted its been a decade, but I still prefer the AA grind over the repetive token grind. - An added bonus was the much more relaxed groupings when the grind was about building the strength of the toon, and not about rushing through a maximum number of dungeons for tokens.

For me, the hardest part of all newer mmo's is the gear grind, simply because Im bored doing it. Im tired of doing it. I miss being able to chat with my groups, hanging out in one spot of an open dungeon whilst gaining exp after max level, and I miss being able to play without the stress of speed runs. - MMO's to me are much harder today than Everquest 1 was, because Im constantly battleing boredom with the gear grind.

[ZakarnRosewood]

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What happened to the gaming world? Why do games get released like this? What happened to the challenge?

I think what has happened to the gaming world is increasingly cynical players. Zelda was hard? FFIV was hard? Maybe back then it was. Why do people like you not consider that you have been gaming for "X" amount of years and played sooo many games and now "you" are seeing things as being stale. Do you think maybe it is BECAUSE you have played so many games for so long that everything has been done before, nothing is new, its so easy?

What happened to the gaming world? Players perception. What happened to challenge? Define challenge. Does this definition apply to everyone? Should it?

[Dreamer]

@OP: If you want challenging, go play the Secret World. Yoshi-P has stated several times that significant portions of this game are designed to have a low barrier of entry to those who haven't played MMORPGs before. It's not something that's going to change.

[Navycrow]

This Game Needs AN Instanced ABsolute Virture boss well like really epic awesome stuff.... that's what this game needs

[Jackus]

I stopped reading.

[MrSmiley]

I have to be at the end of a game to find any challenge? That doesn't seem right. A game should be fun and challenging the whole way up, and multiply in difficulty at the end. I don't see that here. It's easy until 50, and then it goes up a quarter step at 50.

brand new players/people who have not played mmos cant have too much shoved on their head, The game ramps up, 30 it starts to become more difficult and there is plenty of endgame challenge. Endgame is what an mmo is about, the meat and bones of the genre, so only being truly difficult at endgame is fine. That is where players spent the majority of their time, the leveling being a learning process is just fine.

[Soralis]

lol farore patience is a virtue man, i mean if u at least waited till lvl 35 and sunken temple of qarn dungeon or lvl 38 cutters cry the dificulty rate is much much higher, but really?!?! this thread for only lvl 34 lol.

[Renaissance2K]

You want to know why games are so casual-friendly these days?

- Most of these developers' long-time fans - the pool of guaranteed purchases - are older, working more, and part of their own families. If you ostracize them, they're not coming back.

- The pool of casual gamers is larger than the pool of core and hardcore gamers.

- Hardcore gamers are never satisfied. No amount of content is going to be enough.

- Hardcore gamers have a backlog that needs tending, which encourages them to burn through a game as quickly as they can and then move on without looking back.

Also, I find the "no challenge" comments really concerning. Maybe if all you're doing is grinding gates from 1-50, I can see why you'd feel that way, but some of these solo story/class battles have taken me, on average, three tries to complete.

[TeaTimeBear]

I think what has happened to the gaming world is increasingly cynical players. Zelda was hard? FFIV was hard? Maybe back then it was. Why do people like you not consider that you have been gaming for "X" amount of years and played sooo many games and now "you" are seeing things as being stale. Do you think maybe it is BECAUSE you have played so many games for so long that everything has been done before, nothing is new, its so easy?

What happened to the gaming world? Players perception. What happened to challenge? Define challenge. Does this definition apply to everyone? Should it?

They wear nostalgia rose tinted glasses.