new trend happening in dungeons

[FutanXIV]

When you leave a dungeon before anyone starts fighting, there is no 15 minute wait by the way. :\

[RaphaelDDL]

I always ask if there is a 1st timer when I queue for a dng I already know, because I explain the things while we playing so we don't fail so much.
And when is my 1st time, I ask for advice on bosses so I don't fail so much.

[reploidx]

I ask for first timers when I see in my chat window that we have new people in a dungeon. I ask so I can help them along the way so they can pass that knowledge on. I also ask for advice if I'm first since I always play a dungeon once as my tank and then go through as my healer. I do leave though if the group is a complete fail, and by complete fail i mean if the healer doesn't heal, or think they are a tank/dps only and only healing themselves, if the DPS thinks they are a tank and tries to pull everything on them then runs around and get's themselves killed, only to have the mobs scatter and kill everyone (had that happen on my healer). Having the tank just not use tank skills, so everyone dies (especially me as healer). But I usually don't leave if there is a minor problem or if it's something I can control if it looks like chaos will ensue.

[CrisGer]

Thanks for all the useful help. In my first dungeon as a Tank due to a strange bug all of my skills disappered from my skill bars . All of them poof. SE says they are looking into it. So i had to ask my team for a minute to adjust and then told them it was my first time but i would do my best for them. I died three times but they waited and were nice and we had a nice run and everyone got nice gear drops. I enjoyed it and felt encouraged but have waited to level up and get good gear before doing it again and will study the dungeons on line to get the info but I do plan to be honest and let anyone know I am learning and will welcome help, just please keep the Healer Alive and let me do my job and I will do whatever i can for the group.

My biggest mistake in hindsight was not dealing with enough of the secondary enemies, i focused on the Bosses and I think i let the team work too much on the others..but i tried to keep an eye on things and always tried to get the boss focus always on me..and I think the others were experineced and also very nice.

[Slatervonjager]

I haven't seen anyone bail because of first timers, I have however had the urge to leave because of bad first timers. I don't mind that they die a few times, it's expected, they're learning the dungeon, but to die repeatedly yo the same thing that you know will happen, and was explained to you several times, is ridiculous. The only times I have ever abandoned, were because one person left, and then the rest of the team just decided to quit, leaving me alone, or because It's a primal fight has gone on for 80 minutes, with no one in my party pulling their heads out of the rears and realize what it is they're doing wrong(Had a team recently that had to die about 7 times, before they realized how to live through Garuda's lb, and even after that, they couldn't get her under 1/16 of her health before the whole party gets wiped leaving only me alive).

[CrisGer]

so how do we "....

realized how to live through Garuda's lb,

always happy to learn new things.

[Spawnie]

When you leave a dungeon before anyone starts fighting, there is no 15 minute wait by the way. :\

that right there is the reason there should b bigger penalties for deserters lol