new trend happening in dungeons

[Daas]

After reading this, it sounds like I've been pretty fortunate - as a new tank.

In the first raid I did (Sastasha), the monk talked me through everything, and even marked the enemies. Consequently, the next raid, Tam Tara, was a cakewalk.

I caught the wrong half of a bomb explosion in Copperbell (and got locked out of the Slime room) but nobody seemed to mind - and we finished the raid easily.

And in Ifrit, an experienced guy helped us even though Hell Fire killed us three times.

I am getting increasingly nervous the more I gain levels, however! It seems like it's only a matter of time before somebody notices I'm not very good at tanking

Part of the trouble with tanking in this game is that you outlevel those early instances so fast you only really get one run through them anyway.

[peaches]

I always ask if its anybody's first time, but only so I know if I have to explain the fights beforehand.

Seriously, the thing I'm most worried about in a pug are the terrible players. My last one I had a Black Mage who did nothing except cast Ruin (seriously, Ruin? Not even Arcanists want to use Ruin!), then fire and blizzard once now and again for the buffs (don't know why he was using the astral fire buff if he is only using ruin). This was when he cast anything at all - had him selected for a good 3 minutes, and he would take 30s breaks to do nothing in between Ruin casts. Also had a Dragoon in that party who refused to move for ANY AoE, except the boss. I don't understand how they could be this bad, yet follow the mechanics, and the BLM was right on sleeping marked targets, he just didn't do any damage ever.

This is only one out of many experiences with the Duty Finder. Its a good thing I was the healer, and my friend was the tank or else we would have been screwed. I actually had to help DPS as the healer, and so did he as a Paladin.

I'm getting frustrated with too many people not knowing their jobs, and not moving out of AoEs, not even trying. Its one thing if they DO try and are just a bit new, but to be talking to us in the chat, yet when we ask him to avoid the AoE he goes silent and continues to stand in them..

[Eislynn]

That's one of the reasons why I resort to maintaining a friends list of good groups that I've PUG'ed with and seeing if they can help me finish my dungeon runs. I personally still consider myself a new tank, so I really don't want to have the "GO GO GO GO HURRY" experience. I need to LEARN to play tank, and I feel that I can't do that if I'm being rushed. I always ask for feedback and work to improve, so there's that.

[Phantasmid]

BLM horror story

I think I've played with that black mage...



When running low level (sub-30) content you can usually tell someone is going to be unbearably bad if they're on a job. Scholars are maybe a 50/50, as they legitimately gain something for going with their job even at level 15, but everyone else is guaranteed to have no idea what they're doing with having their job equipped for no benefit being a dead giveaway. Just a bit ago I was in Halatali with a bard who was making things hell for everyone by seemingly intentionally competing against the tank for hate and then kiting so nobody could hit anything - I ended up just leaving after a few pulls, taking the 15 minute cooldown after a 45 minute queue rather than deal with playing tag.

Bad archers are basically the only reason I ever ditch a party...

[mythicrose]

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Nothing to do with your story, but I think I've seen you in one of my 1000 Maw runs when I was tanking. If not, your name looks familiar.

[Spawnie]

I think I've played with that black mage...



When running low level (sub-30) content you can usually tell someone is going to be unbearably bad if they're on a job. Scholars are maybe a 50/50, as they legitimately gain something for going with their job even at level 15, but everyone else is guaranteed to have no idea what they're doing with having their job equipped for no benefit being a dead giveaway. Just a bit ago I was in Halatali with a bard who was making things hell for everyone by seemingly intentionally competing against the tank for hate and then kiting so nobody could hit anything - I ended up just leaving after a few pulls, taking the 15 minute cooldown after a 45 minute queue rather than deal with playing tag.

Bad archers are basically the only reason I ever ditch a party...

practise makes perfect tho the more they run dungeons n get used to boss mechanics the better they will b in the long run ;/

[Alteiriaa]

See, I might not talk all that much and I might have my WAR crystal on, but I don't mind having to 'splain things to others, or have things 'splained to me.

I'm one of the oddballs in mmo's who is just as shy here as they are irl, but you know what, if someone asks about something and I know the answer? I'll tell them, it just might take me a minute or 3 to make words. Last few runs I've had on a diffrent character, one dungeon I had someone telling me what all was up, our tank dropped, and we all chatted a little and then tried to win anyway. Super close, but no dice. The one before that, it was me and the tank left, just before maininance on the JP servers. We were gonna try to get as far as we could, but as soon as I hit the Make Bomb Happen switch we got kicked. I find this stuff fun, and while I'm worried about who I'll meet when I get to end-game, I'm here for fun. And when the run ain't fun, I'm done, but it doesn't matter if you are new or not to me! Just don't be a ass! We'll get on fine.

[Phantasmid]

practise makes perfect tho the more they run dungeons n get used to boss mechanics the better they will b in the long run ;/

It's nothing PERSONAL, it's just that if I have to physically chase every single mob trying to hit it, that's not fun - I'd rather go back to crafting and wait for a different party. If I'm melee nowadays, that means I'm DPS and they'll replace me within seconds; I gave up tanking because I don't enjoy playing paladin anymore.

[Noni]

I ran Stone Vigil last night with an amazing group of guys who had not done the dungeon before. I explained everything I knew and we did ok wiped a few times but only on the blizzard things. when we got to the last boss we had exactly 8 minutes left to kill it and we did it! They were so happy!!! We all tried to add one another to friend lists but couldn't because we were all from different servers. That was probably the best run I have ever done.

[seekerofpower]

The chat tells you if it is someone's first time, so it is odd that people ask. If I see that it is someone's first time, I offer boss strats.