AF gear - handed to you for dinging 45/50

[Fossil924]

Af being easy to attain isn't that big an issue since before you had to open chests all over some in dungeons some not in 1.0 .I'm surpised no ones complaining about having to do all the new job quests to get to the AF part.I had a 45 Blm and had to level archer to 15 to even start them ABSURD.

[ViolentDjango]

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AF in this game is a reward for hitting lv. 45-50. FFXI kind of gives you the idea that it needs to be a crazy huge epic chore to get, but honestly it makes sense they'd reward you for finishing the leveling of a job.

I don't see a problem with it -- the Advanced AF we'll get from future end game/a level cap increase will likely require a lot of effort.

[Fossil924]

And if this game goes F2P like most WoW-clones after 1 or 2 years (compared to FFXI's +11), only then will I be retroactively correct? Let's wait until the launch hype dies down until we talk about booming popularity. I'm sure it is not hard to notice the negativity surrounding the terrible (yet forgettable) leveling experience on secondary classes (FATEs) and the tomestone grind is catch.

You will see what happens after the free 30 days on what the player base will be or end up and you can expect millions to leave and not because of the fees alone even though some people are cheap.but people living in game and getting bored or lack of content . I mean I see people whining about the game needs more quests already...maybe those people should spend more time in the real world and get off the couch(PS3 version) or get out of your PC chair.

[Selyndria]

Couple things, while I think they did make it a little too easy I am ok with it. This gear is really just the starter stuff for what's to come. Better gear, level cap increase, all going to make this the set to have by 50 but by no means is it the last set of gear. I played FFXI for years and that AF was moderately challenging at best but seeing as you got the last piece at 60 it was by no means your final set. Basically a good quality set that anyone and everyone should have to get them started. People need to lose the whole elite attitude and stop acting like no one should be allowed decent gear unless they spend 12 hours a day playing while attached to a headset. There is far more to this game than grinding to level cap and getting the highest gearscore.

[Riposte]

Artifact armor doesn't have to not matter (SE doesn't have to make the set nothing but boring stat boosts), but even if it doesn't matter, job quests don't have to not matter. If the milestone isn't the actual armor set, then make it the final job ability. In either case, we lost that milestone (and opportunity to forge community bonds) and it smoothed the game out so people are sliding right into the endgame grind with less memorable moments of the 1-59 experience (and more so for when they are doing new classes).

[sasakusaku]

I like the fact that they give you some shinies to get you prepped for ENTRY level end game content. You still must grind since that gear is not that great compared to what can be earned after.

They went a good route imo and allows more players to get their feet wet. Other games catered to that 1% exclusive club mentality for years and when they eased up on it: subs shot up through roof to 12+ mill at one point.

End result is happier players = more subs = more money for SE.

You got your exclusive elite club with HMs and Coil right? Good luck smoothly doing the tough ones in that 'awsome' AF gear...

[Raxion]

Because your AF is entry-level 50 gear. Even the dungeon greens outdo it. It just looks nice, that's all.

[Selyndria]

Artifact armor doesn't have to not matter (SE doesn't have to make the set nothing but boring stat boosts), but even if it doesn't matter, job quests don't have to not matter. If the milestone isn't the actual armor set, then make it the final job ability. In either case, we lost that milestone (and opportunity to forge community bonds) and it smoothed the game out so people are sliding right into the endgame grind with less memorable moments of the 1-59 experience (and more so for when they are doing new classes).

I agree, this goes along with them making it too easy. In 1.0 I got my BLM AF and it required the help of my LS mates. It was a chore and an achievement. It's definitely nothing like that in 2.0. Basically the game goes from easy mode to insane after AF.

[Hostar]

I replaced most of my AF gear within a day. (Going from 45-50)

I don't mind easy-to-obtain gear but you could have at least swapped the AF gear with the Darklight gear. Both are incredibly easy to obtain but at least it'd be more interesting to grind all those tokens with AF gear as the reward.

[Synol]

It's not as if you stay in in forever, and gear in this game does not fully equal skill, that's why you have elitist pricks trying to judge people who are trying to do fresh endgame for being in AF gear. THOSE are the ones you need to stay away from. for all you know the AF wielders are more skilled then the people who abused exploits for that darklight, i know i'v seen quite a few of those.

Besides, after AF most stuff better takes alot longer to get, so get used to seeing people in AF often now that you can't abuse AK anymore.

Yes stay away from the people who will actually be capable of doing harder stuff. That sounds like a great way to remain a scrub.