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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by zaviermhigo View Post
    I do honestly think its sad where we live in a society that does not want to read, in society where "tl;dr" is used for storylines in games and not just obscenely long forum posts. The U.S. and most of the western world boast 99% literacy ratings, while countries like mexico and many south american countries considered the semi-periphery boast only about a 80%, there are people in this world who wish they could read long walls of text, and we simply give up the right, and created more kids who hate reading, who create more kids who hate reading (i now slippery slope but eff it.) Its just sad when you go to school and talk to kids and more than half claim to "hate reading" and automatically consider older fashion novels and text "boring."

    On the other hand, if english is not you native tongue and they don't add support for your language, I can understand why you wouldn't want to read long walls of text. When I read french, i have to break it down sometimes, i just can't tackle it , and in a game setting sometimes there isn't enough time to deduce connotations, especially when its written in somewhat of a cockney accent, or sometimes an old english kind of theme.

    Basically promote literacy, and people's desire to read for fun.
    I agree with your sentiment about a society that does not want to read, but I just want to say that you are wrong about South American countries and 80% Literacy rating. In fact one of the lowest ratings in South America is Peru at 89% or so (Mexico is over 90% as well). We grew up in Colombia and have always loved reading, my little brother as well, so I can vouch for the next generation, but then again, we barely managed to escape the "Nintendo" age group of kids that grew up playing inside staring at a TV instead of going outside and playing.

    Another problem with this "literacy ratings" is that countries like the United States only go and do the Census in neighborhoods where the people are for the most part at least junior high educated and then bloat their results, when in fact, the people who do not know how to properly use words like "There, Their, They're, Your, You're, etc." are those "educated" Americans.
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  2. #122
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    I think your way off base bringing in literacy rates and what not. I wont argue with your numbers, because thats really low on my Give-a-sh*t-o-meter. I am pretty sure most people who play MMORPGs can read and write well enough for the purpose of playing the game (thats most not all). This is a cheap attempt to side-track the issue.

    The real issue is not about how people need more imagination as one person in another thread suggested to me. It also has nothing to do with literacy or being lazy. This is a Triple A P2P MMO and its F@#&ing Final Fantasy!!!! I love to read, and do it quite often. I have to read and write a lot for work, and in the recent past for some continuing education credits. I also love reading fantasy novels, and go through about 1 a week. I love reading about an exotic fantasy world and using my imagination to build it in my mind's eye.

    However, a videogame is a different animal, and this is an electronic form of entertainment. This is NOT old school pen and paper with D&D, and it is NOT a book. I will be paying for this game and much like a movie it is the devs jobs to entertain me with content and a quality interactive storyline. I dont even mind them using all text and no voice acting. Thats not the issue. I just don't want to read a wall of text that isnt even in game or even in game text that has no animated sequences with it. Those CS will give more life and atmosphere to the story. Last but not least (and I cant over emphasize this) this is a Final Fantasy Title and as such I will (eventually) expect both in-game and GC animated CS sequences as I expect them in all FF titles. The only way I would not expect this is if FFXIV had come out as a book and not a videogame.
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  3. #123
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    Firstly, I'd like to give my input on this Easter event. I thought it was a good mini-story on its own. There was the beginning that told us about the event, the middle which was where bad things started to happen in which the players were involved in helping during the bad times, and then the ending of the event but with a small twist. The enemy started out to be the Spriggans only to find out later that it was these "hooded" man and woman to be the culprit behind the fiasco. But I'm pretty sure that even then, they aren't the "real" enemy. To me, this definitely sounds like a Final Fantasy story (even if it isn't the main story, or if it is tied to the main story, we don't know yet)

    Now for the nay sayers, I really don't understand why these people are complaining. People complained about these events not being enough, "oh it only has bells" etc. Now they give us no bells and a story to go with it from beginning to end. Granted not all of it was in-game, which would have been nice, but maybe that is something to "suggest" the dev team so the next event they have planned, could be a bit more in-game involved, instead of complaining that this event was crap or whatever other negativity comments there are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecchi_Goshujin-sama View Post
    Now for the nay sayers, I really don't understand why these people are complaining. People complained about these events not being enough, "oh it only has bells" etc. Now they give us no bells and a story to go with it from beginning to end. Granted not all of it was in-game, which would have been nice, but maybe that is something to "suggest" the dev team so the next event they have planned, could be a bit more in-game involved, instead of complaining that this event was crap or whatever other negativity comments there are.
    Oh hi! Welcome to the English Forums.

    It gets worse.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Oh hi! Welcome to the English Forums.

    It gets worse.
    Thanks for the warm welcome ^^

    And yes I'm aware of how bad it is here. I have lurked these forums since SE opened them, just haven't been vocal until recently xD
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  6. #126
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    Community = whiners. Whine about everything no matter what.

    Go ahead and do what you want Yoshida.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Community = whiners. Whine about everything no matter what.

    Go ahead and do what you want Yoshida.
    Aye, most importantly, stick close to Tanaka and help this game become what he envisioned. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Aye, most importantly, stick close to Tanaka and help this game become what he envisioned. :3
    I don't care as long as the game is fun to play. Tanaka had a great vision but it is apparently hard to actually implement...plus I still have resentment towards Tanaka for how...I don't know how to phrase this...badly he left the game in shambles. It looks like he was really lazy with just about every aspect of the game. A vision is fine and all but the game wasn't/isn't even close to what his vision was.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  9. #129
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    I cant believe I just read every single post, hoping for some ppl's theories on what might be happening surrounding the event.

    Nope instead I just read 128 posts about how this event sucked.

    Devs please lock this thread and throw it away. Theres no reason to add anything else to this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObeiKinstar View Post
    I cant believe I just read every single post, hoping for some ppl's theories on what might be happening surrounding the event.
    Theory #1:

    Jihli did receive the authentic Dreamer's Gospel, but completely misinterpreted it.
    Others, who choose to remain in the shadows, know that the Gospel is authentic.
    Jihli is considered only a minor threat because she misinterpreted the message so badly.
    But she is still a threat because she still was a witness to something. Something significant.
    If she passes what she knows to someone who CAN figure out the real message ... those Echo Pathwalkers for example ...
    They can Echo into her recollection and find out what really happened that night she received the Dreamer's Gospel.
    Clearly that cannot be allowed to happen.
    Killing her would be too suspicious, raise too many questions, and invite further investigations.
    Time for a memory purge.
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