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    realmreborn's Avatar
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    Big Butcher
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50

    [TO THE TANKS IN THIS GAME]I salute you for playing this broken Role

    I have seen my friend tank he plays in JP server and been traumatized by the bad client server latency and RED danger zones, every time he gets out of the red zone and stay
    way far away from it he still get damage from it. poor healers have to suffer

    AND MOST IMPORTANT THING is the STUNS , he was off tanking chimera and and assigned to stun dragon roar as soon as he saw the spell bar been cast he clicked on shield bash WHICH should have stunned the monster- canceled the casting- but it didnt the spell was casted and everyone blame him for not stunning soon kicked replaced after few tries, i dont know if that the case in US-EU servers but i have noticed:

    Even PLD takes alot of damage EVEN when using his -dmg reduction spells on the big spells, i played ffxi and loved how PLD where the kings of magic mitigation and physical , i thought they would be the same in FFXIV:ARR but compared to FFXI PLDs they are crap.
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    I bet everyone will switch to evasion tanks in the future like SAM or NIN and most MRD will switch to DRK instead of Tanking
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    Ryu Gier
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by realmreborn View Post
    I bet everyone will switch to evasion tanks in the future like SAM or NIN and most MRD will switch to DRK instead of Tanking
    NIN will most likely be a DPS like it was originally intended. Remember: Players made nin into a tank in the first place. Nothing about a ninja in general spells "tank". SAM too will most likely be another DPS type.
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by realmreborn View Post
    I bet everyone will switch to evasion tanks in the future like SAM or NIN and most MRD will switch to DRK instead of Tanking
    If it's a pure evasion tank probably not, as they don't really work. You are ghod-mode all the way up to the time you fail to evade, then without the mits to survive you just go *splat*.
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    Mazui Viras
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    The deal with the shield bash is likely caused by the diminishing returns kicking in. If other people with stuns try to help stun, the stun becomes less effective until it won't work for a short time.

    I had the same problem with Chimera last night. Other players were trying to be helpful, but this is just one of those fights where you have to trust your interrupter and hope for the best.
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    Soaring on the wings of selfish pride, I flew too high. And like Icarus I collide, with a world I try so hard to leave behind. -Jars of Clay

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    Player Syfin's Avatar
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    Syfin Cross
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    If you are talking avout rams voice( which is the only real danger in that fight) a BRD os supposed to silence it. Shield bash gets diminshing returns amd eventually stops working.
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    Scerick Aetherstorm
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Syfin View Post
    If you are talking avout rams voice( which is the only real danger in that fight) a BRD os supposed to silence it. Shield bash gets diminshing returns amd eventually stops working.
    This is not true. I have killed Chimera about a dozen times now with the same Paladin interrupting *every* voice, both dragon's and ram's, without any DR problems. The issue is other dps/tanks trying to interrupt, or your interrupter is missing.

    As previously stated, put one person on who is competent and this fight is a breeze.
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    Last edited by Scerick; 09-18-2013 at 05:16 AM.

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    Atriese Lolo
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Scerick View Post
    This is not true. I have killed Chimera about a dozen times now with the same Paladin interrupting *every* voice, both dragon's and ram's, without any DR problems. The issue is other dps/tanks trying to interrupt, or your interrupter is missing.

    As previously stated, put one person on who is competent and this fight is a breeze.
    Good job on reading
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    Player Scerick's Avatar
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrious View Post
    Good job on reading
    Uh, same to you? I responded to this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Syfin View Post
    If you are talking avout rams voice( which is the only real danger in that fight) a BRD os supposed to silence it. Shield bash gets diminshing returns amd eventually stops working.
    Not the OP. As you can see, he says Paladins (shield bash) run into DR on their interrupt and can't interrupt every voice - which is incorrect - which is what I posted.

    Maybe read what I quoted first?

    Quote Originally Posted by Syfin View Post
    Ya dont listen to me. It took me 2 attempts to beat it. Im a noob.
    I didn't realize that Marauder/Warrior got shield bash.
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    Last edited by Scerick; 09-18-2013 at 04:05 AM.

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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    Tonberry
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Syfin View Post
    If you are talking avout rams voice( which is the only real danger in that fight) a BRD os supposed to silence it. Shield bash gets diminshing returns amd eventually stops working.
    The guy who quoted you is correct. This is not true.

    Shield bash will work every time on Chimera if the PLD is the only one doing it. In general, Shield Bash will work 3 times in a row on a mob. On the fourth, it will resist. However, if you allow the mob to use another ability in-between your Shield Bashes, it resets the Stun resist.

    So a PLD being the only stunner, you could have the following situation: Ram's voice, Dragon's voice, Ram's voice, <insert random other ability>, Dragon's voice.

    You could stun all three voices in a row, then as long as you let the random ability go, you'll be able to stun the next dragon's voice. The problem that occurs is other players "helping" with stun. Every time I've ever wiped on a boss because my stuns were resisted was because someone else was stunning as well. As soon as I told everyone not to stun at all, there were no issues.
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