This game would be awesome if...

[Lexxuk]

Name me one good open world PvP game, with 3 factions, and with keeps. You're welcome.

Why settle for 3? Go for multiple factions with allied/neutral/hostile so you could be allied with a group that is allied to a group that is hostile to you, anything else is just carebear. Neocron might suit your needs, although it's harsh as blue on blue is allowed and in some areas with no penalties, so your best friend can shoot you in the back.

[danteafk]

...the three grand companies would be at war every time. The world is just so huge and beautiful. Imagine an open world PvP with three factions batteling each other. With company keeps in dedicated frontier zones, 1 zone for each company with 8+ keeps.

I really love this game by its art and gameplay, but I dont know why I am even playing it, since PvE is the only option.

/discuss

Dark Age of Camelot. Best PvP game with 3 faction up 2 date.

[Neoiceman]

Why settle for 3? Go for multiple factions with allied/neutral/hostile so you could be allied with a group that is allied to a group that is hostile to you, anything else is just carebear. Neocron might suit your needs, although it's harsh as blue on blue is allowed and in some areas with no penalties, so your best friend can shoot you in the back.

I love it and i play it sometimes
Neocron are the best PvP Game ever not even DAoC can mess with it.

[Cubester]

It wouldn't make any sense, lore wise. We (the grand companies) are fighting a greater threat together. Fighting between the three companies is the last thing we need right now.
If we do get future PvP content, I either hope it's opt-in or in an arena, or that PvPers get their own servers. I really don't need people ganking me while leveling because they're bored.

[DSWBeef]

If a feature doesnt make sense lore wise then it shouldnt be in the game. Period. Wow decided not to take this route and the Lich king (one of the most powerful beings in azeroth) was killed 1 day after blizz released him.

[flikQ]

I agree the idea is good, in theory, but doesn't make any sense in this game!

Perhaps an expansion later down the line might intro a new faction (I dare not say Empire as I am not all the way through the story yet so don't know if anything happens there that might prevent this), or go down the WoW route where they just magic up a race/faction out of nowhere that no-one happened to notice before...!

[Hulan]

While not exactly what you are hoping for, you may want to look into Frontlines. I believe it's schedules for 2.2, so about 4-5 months off. While not fully open world PvP, it is GC vs GC battlegrounds which - as described - would be a more free-form style PvP than Wolf's Den.

[Matthew_John]

PVP has already been talked about...frontlines...and you will fight each other based upon your Grand Company...suck it carebears!!!!

http://www.ffxivinfo.com/content/pvp.php

[Amenian]

I'd really rather this game not fall into the balance PvE to ruin PvP to balance PvP to ruin PvE treadmill. Plenty of other games out there you can go to for that.

[Riko_113]

I promise you, if there would be a fresh release with DAoC mechanics, it would have success. DAoC was launched in 2001. Back in these days it was totally crowded in terms of MMORPGs at that time, which were still a niche genre. But I guess your first MMORPG was WoW or FFXI, you cant know that, brave new gamer. Nowadays, no one wants to play a game from 2001, including me.

You realize XI launched in 2002 and Wow in 2004 right? We're not talking about the Grandpa of MMOs versus the little kids. They are far apart as the original launch and current launch of this game <.<

edit: Also, if you pay attention, the GC TELL you that they don't fight anymore because they need to be united against the Garlean Empire and the Primals. So the entire premise of this game is what keeps your dream from reality. It's just the complete opposite of what this game is.

Can you even read...the Grand Companies are the basis of the future Factional warfare in the game...guess you will have to live in fantasy land!

You're in the fantasy land. Pvp is not going to be open world. If you could READ you should have noticed that aside from the current alpha testing ACTUAL pvp will be using UNIQUE skills that you don't have access to in the open world. They arent ACTUALLY rivals as someone mentioned, training exercises.

This game would be awesome if it hadn't been hit by the "vertical progression" bug, and if they hadn't dumbed down the combat and itemization badly and forced cheap boss mechanics (like a thousand 1-shot moves or a metric fuckton of adds) to keep things challenging.

Since when has a higher risk of death not been used to make games difficult. I think people are confusing the time consuming, tedious combat from certain other games difficult. Time Sink≠Difficulty

Some of the most famous games in the world (Super Mario) involve risk of instant death. People are just so used to taking 8 shots to the head before dying that they don't seem to have a value of life. Especially when they think the Healer is just sitting around waiting to Swiftcast+Raise them

Combat is not 2 men fighting for 3 days straight to the death. Combat is one man getting that lucky first hit and it ending.