This game would be awesome if...

[Forsty]

If it'd be so good, how come nobody else is doing it? Dark Age of Camelot blazed this trail, but somehow nobody seems to want to follow it.

I promise you, if there would be a fresh release with DAoC mechanics, it would have success. DAoC was launched in 2001. Back in these days it was totally crowded in terms of MMORPGs at that time, which were still a niche genre. But I guess your first MMORPG was WoW or FFXI, you cant know that, brave new gamer. Nowadays, no one wants to play a game from 2001, including me.

[Riko_113]

I promise you, if there would be a fresh release with DAoC mechanics, it would have success. DAoC was launched in 2001. Back in these days it was totally crowded in terms of MMORPGs at that time, which were still a niche genre. But I guess your first MMORPG was WoW or FFXI, you cant know that, brave new gamer. Nowadays, no one wants to play a game from 2001, including me.

You realize XI launched in 2002 and Wow in 2004 right? We're not talking about the Grandpa of MMOs versus the little kids. They are far apart as the original launch and current launch of this game <.<

edit: Also, if you pay attention, the GC TELL you that they don't fight anymore because they need to be united against the Garlean Empire and the Primals. So the entire premise of this game is what keeps your dream from reality. It's just the complete opposite of what this game is.

Can you even read...the Grand Companies are the basis of the future Factional warfare in the game...guess you will have to live in fantasy land!

You're in the fantasy land. Pvp is not going to be open world. If you could READ you should have noticed that aside from the current alpha testing ACTUAL pvp will be using UNIQUE skills that you don't have access to in the open world. They arent ACTUALLY rivals as someone mentioned, training exercises.

This game would be awesome if it hadn't been hit by the "vertical progression" bug, and if they hadn't dumbed down the combat and itemization badly and forced cheap boss mechanics (like a thousand 1-shot moves or a metric fuckton of adds) to keep things challenging.

Since when has a higher risk of death not been used to make games difficult. I think people are confusing the time consuming, tedious combat from certain other games difficult. Time Sink≠Difficulty

Some of the most famous games in the world (Super Mario) involve risk of instant death. People are just so used to taking 8 shots to the head before dying that they don't seem to have a value of life. Especially when they think the Healer is just sitting around waiting to Swiftcast+Raise them

Combat is not 2 men fighting for 3 days straight to the death. Combat is one man getting that lucky first hit and it ending.

[Matthew_John]

Also, if you pay attention, the GC TELL you that they don't fight anymore because they need to be united against the Garlean Empire and the Primals. So the entire premise of this game is what keeps your dream from reality. It's just the complete opposite of what this game is.

Can you even read...the Grand Companies are the basis of the future Factional warfare in the game...guess you will have to live in fantasy land!

[Hulan]

Can you even read...the Grand Companies are the basis of the future Factional warfare in the game...guess you will have to live in fantasy land!

I suspect they will go the "Training Exercise" route; War Games as it were. That's how they explained a lot of the inter-company stuff in 1.0. It seems unlikely that they will just throw away a book of lore, just to shoehorn in PvP. Frontlines is coming, to be sure, but I expect it is coming with a valid and reasonable explanation.

[Tupsi]

Can you even read...the Grand Companies are the basis of the future Factional warfare in the game...guess you will have to live in fantasy land!

There will be no "warfare" in this game between the companies. "Frontlines" is fought more through Free Companies per lore as Free Companies have standing within x Grand Company, which is why it's "between the grand companies." SE isn't dumb enough to ruin this game that quickly.

Since you want to ask people if they can read, can you explain something? How will someone be a Goldsmith if they're from Gridania and happen to be allied to the Adder? Goldsmithing is an Ul'dahn talent and based on ul'dah, if we're waring with the Flames guess who can no longer become a Goldsmith simply by affiliation?

Faction warfare makes zero sense in this game.

[Matthew_John]

Since you want to ask people if they can read, can you explain something? How will someone be a Goldsmith if they're from Gridania and happen to be allied to the Adder? Goldsmithing is an Ul'dahn talent and based on ul'dah, if we're waring with the Flames guess who can no longer become a Goldsmith simply by affiliation?

Faction warfare makes zero sense in this game.

They have already decided to do Factional Warfare via frontlines based upon your GRAND COMPANY here is some info for you to READ;

"For A Realm Reborn‘s PvP we plan to implement two elements: the Coliseum for “casual” PvP matches and the Frontline for large-scale PvP battles. Frontline will feature epic battles among the three city-states and would be similar to a Realm vs. Realm which you can look forward to."

SEEEEE SEEEEE FACTIONAL WARFARE based upon GRAND COMPANIES

Makes ZERO sense to you but apparently alot of sense to the developers!

[Tupsi]

They have already decided to do Factional Warfare via frontlines based upon your GRAND COMPANY h

Fought via Free Companies, which are affiliated to a certain GC, which is why you create a free company in each city and not one set location. When you actually play the game it tells you more than outdated information.

You never answered, how will the game work when everyone is at war with each other? Your character can do everything, so how will it work when all guilds are spread throughout the city-states? Also I see nothing in your quote that says 'Factional Warfare", as said definition means everyone will be killing everyone simply because they're in a different Faction.

[Matthew_John]

Fought via Free Companies, which are affiliated to a certain GC, which is why you create a free company in each city and not one set location. When you actually play the game it tells you more than outdated information.

You never answered, how will the game work when everyone is at war with each other? Your character can do everything, so how will it work when all guilds are spread throughout the city-states? Also I see nothing in your quote that says 'Factional Warfare", as said definition means everyone will be killing everyone simply because they're in a different Faction.

Get over it man...the PVP is based upon the FACTIONS...what difference would it make if your signed up through yer FC or not...its REALM vs REALM based upon the 3 CITY STATES lol

factional warfare doesnt equate to OPEN WORLD PVP...it just means the basis of the fights will be based upon the factions associated with each city