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  1. #211
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    Tharia's Avatar
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    Thyara Tayur
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    And this is why I feel SquareEnix listens to their members way too much >.> Complain if they do, complain if they don't.
    So no matter what they do, they ind of loose I assume. Personally I would be however interrested which part of the groups are the bigger ones with their wishes. Considering that more of the 'Progamer' faction complains in taht acse and satisfied people are normally silent and not even visist the Forum, I think there are not to many that were against that move. Forums can be quite misguideing.
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  2. #212
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    Riposte's Avatar
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    Blaetrot Pfarskoefsyn
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    After receiving a lot of feedback in version 1.0 about the job artifact armor quests being overly frustrating due to the fact that they were placed within dungeons or at the end of difficult battles, the development team decided to make them easier to earn in A Realm Reborn.

    As mentioned, there are definitely more difficult challenges available for players who seek a greater reward for their efforts.
    Has it ever occurred to the development team that people liked how AF quests worked and didn't speak up because they were content? Are you really going to make everything in this game a boring filler once people start complaining about it? How long until the story primal battles turn into brainless content too?

    And at level 40-50, there isn't much worthwhile content to do that doesn't involve parties. Why does someone need the final job quest completed if they are already not dealing with demanding content like the final dungeons and the endgame after? It doesn't make any sense to make your game feel like a tutorial for 50 levels, when it already contains content that has already surpass that. Story titan is nearly 20 levels before the final AF quest. People should not be that weak at that point.

    Anyway, congrats on making the quests so easy they are boring and forgettable. I'm sure every ARR player will remember the day they got some loot from a very solo easy quest (much like they've been doing for the previous 40 to 50 levels) that became outdated after a few dungeon raids, a week later. Yep, that's how you build memories. This is totally the reason AF was a milestone in FFXI and FFXIV 1.0.
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    Last edited by Riposte; 09-17-2013 at 10:16 PM.
    Ultimate FATE fix/redesign: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/92555-Making-FATEs-smarter!-%28Comprehensive-FATE-%28-guildleve-quest%29-fixes-redesign%29
    Better integrating DoH/L into the endgame: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/90616-Getting-DoH-DoL-more-involved-in-endgame-progression...-%28two-ideas%29

  3. #213
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    Happysour's Avatar
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    Flurion Maximus
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Jobs are for group play by design.
    Should the job quest not also be for group play? Why making a questline for a group play element soloable?
    Was it not possible do put it in duty finder? At least the last quest should be a party quest.
    No. No. No. No. I remember old job quests and job transfer quests. No. MAYBE job transfers require you to go to a specific dungeon for items for the quest. At the most. But duties for each quest? No.
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  4. #214
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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    it makes any gear from 45-50 from those dungeons and quests useless, thats what I don't like, if they at least made it 1 every lvl from 45-50 it would at least make the 45-50 gear useless.
    This isn't true, you can't wear AF on your classes only your jobs, the gear in dungeons is so you can keep your class up to speed.
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  5. #215
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    because it's just the basic gear set for the beginning of your endgame life.
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  6. #216
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    Synfrag's Avatar
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    Syn Kazama
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Because it is crap gear. It is only for you to feel like you are finally a full fledged (insert job). Just cause its blue doesn't make it good.
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  7. #217
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    Frothylager's Avatar
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    Aubrey Elisi
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Riposte View Post
    Has it ever occurred to the development team that people liked how AF quests worked and didn't speak up because they were content? Are you really going to make everything in this game a boring filler once people start complaining about it? How long until the story primal battles turn into brainless content too?

    Anyway, congrats on making the quests so easy they are boring and forgettable. I'm sure every ARR player will remember the day they got some loot from a very solo easy quest (much like they've been doing for the previous 40 to 50 levels) that became outdated after a few dungeon raids, a week later. Yep, that's how you build memories. This is totally the reason AF was a milestone in FFXI and FFXIV 1.0.
    Yeah, and you know the way ffxi and ffxiv 1.0 did it was correct because of their booming popularity... Oh wait...
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  8. #218
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    Seraphi's Avatar
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    Ava Inferi
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 61
    AF gear is mostly iconic, entry level 50 dungeon gear. It's not even that good compared to what you can get in AV and other dungeons if you're lucky. Had SE not called it "AF", people probably wouldn't care. Misguided correlation to FFXI I guess.

    You get to "work" for your AF+1, which is meaningful, and tells everyone you're a badass.

    Would you like people in white gear in your AK runs? That's what I thought. Calm your nuts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frothylager View Post
    Yeah, and you know the way ffxi and ffxiv 1.0 did it was correct because of their booming popularity... Oh wait...
    Exactly. SE wants this game to be popular, and attractive to a lot more people than their previous online titles, including these "casuals" you kids look down upon.
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  9. #219
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    ChickensEvil's Avatar
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    Zinovia Siderius
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by rubina View Post
    Because you were carried through. Come back with your smugness when attempting to take on Titan HM with free gear. Once the new patch comes out, it'll be a moot point since there will be gear pre-reqs for DF runs.
    Considering those who are pushing BCoB are saying that you only need partial DL gear and AK greens to do the first couple turns, and Titan is certainly a lower gear requirement than BCoB, I am going to go out on a limb here and say you don't know what you are talking about. Ifrit can be easily done with lower gear (had a kill where someone was stupid and messed up the LB for spikes so we had to full burn them and STILL had time... gear is not the issue here, it is having tanks know how to interrupt and people not standing in the stupid). Garuda is slightly harder, hey, maybe you should go get a better weapon from the level 49 piece of trash you got from a quest and up your off pieces from level 20 somethings... Oh look now you have enough gear. Titan is the ONLY one that requires any amount of gear and even then he doesn't require much. I bet you are one of those who hates people running titan without their relic weapon (when in order to even get said relic weapon you have to kill titan)
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  10. #220
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    ChickensEvil's Avatar
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    Zinovia Siderius
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    This isn't true, you can't wear AF on your classes only your jobs, the gear in dungeons is so you can keep your class up to speed.
    Wait, what? If you are playing as your base class for any content past 30 you are doing it wrong. Get rid of that GLD preset, you should only be running around as a PLD. The only possible exception to this, is running around the world doing solo content since the argument can be made that you can pull from more cross class abilities that way. But even then, I have yet to face solo content that wasn't completely doable as my Job (and I am a squishy BLM... you just stand there an lol at their damage and even have a heal if the situation gets really dire)
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