Results 1 to 10 of 305

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Pixelshader's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    120
    Character
    Pixel Shader
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastien View Post
    Hello - I have a few thoughts in reaction to your post.

    #1 - I am not very comfortable with your Fast Blade macro. Personally I will not use any c/d's on the trash pull(s) right before a boss. Basically, I want everything to be up for that. I agree that Fight or Flight is a critical tool for establishing enmity at the start of a pull, and that's why I want to make certain it is available for me before we begin a boss fight.

    #2 - I don't agree with your approach to AOE pulls. I think the rotation you described - especially "spam Flash until half MP" - might be necessary in a very limited set of situations. For example, if a bunch of adds spawn during a boss and they all need to be AOE'd down quickly. But most times this is not the optimal strategy.

    Thinking about Flash, it (a) can reduce our incoming damage via blind, (b) can maintain AOE threat against the healer without breaking CC, and (c) does no damage. Therefore I view it as something to be used only as much as is necessary. Any time I use it when I didn't need to, that is wasted DPS. I could have been contributing damage to a target and getting it down faster (which in turn means that I take less damage overall).

    In my experience, good WHM's these days are favoring a style of using their first several GCD's on Sleep. This is optimal b/c it in turn allows them to do less healing and contribute more DPS to the target. I find a single Flash is more than sufficient to buy enough enmity to keep the mobs on me until the Sleeps go out. After that, I will not Flash again until the first Blind wears off. Why? Because this game has diminishing returns. When you spam Flash, the next Blind is at 1/2 duration, the third at 1/4, and after that - immune. By spamming it, you are forfeiting your blind, which is a mitigation tool.

    Therefore my preference for AOE tanking in most situations is shield lob to initiate, a single flash during the CC portion of the fight, and then cycle my rotation through the active target(s). That is, if there are two active monsters not CC'd, I will Halone one, then the other, etc. If the DD's are creeping up on you, on the main target, you won't be able to do it like that. In that case, I would fast blade on main, savage blade on off, then halon back on main. And so on. As opposed to spamming Flash, this allows me to have much more uptime on Blind, and contribute more damage because every GCD goes to damage.
    If you're not comfortable with using macros don't use them. You are describing low level dungeons. When you group with geared players you dont sleep mobs you kill them. Pull 3 groups aoe them down move on. No need to make a day out of one dungeon.

    The methods I described are from watching videos of high end guilds as well as self experience. As I stated, I do not create anything on my own without verifying that many high end players are doing the same thing, I then compiled the information into this compendium for yours as well as my benefit. Watch videos from Defiant Of (Behemoth), Lyni Sol (Coeurl), Cue Ball (Leviathan) and Rikku Inohira (Moogle) to get a better consensus of how to tank end game content.
    (1)
    Last edited by Pixelshader; 09-17-2013 at 08:26 AM.

  2. #2
    Player
    Miska's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    52
    Character
    Miska Trademere
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Pixelshader View Post
    The methods I described are from watching videos of high end guilds as well as self experience. As I stated, I do not create anything on my own without verifying that many high end players are doing the same thing, I then compiled the information into this compendium for yours as well as my benefit. Watch videos from Defiant Of (Behemoth), Lyni Sol (Coeurl), Cue Ball (Leviathan) and Rikku Inohira (Moogle) to get a better consensus of how to tank end game content.
    Links to videos? I never had a need to use Flash to 50% at the start of a fight yet. Would like to see these.... in action
    (0)

  3. #3
    Player
    Pixelshader's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    120
    Character
    Pixel Shader
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Miska View Post
    Links to videos? I never had a need to use Flash to 50% at the start of a fight yet. Would like to see these.... in action
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jv2x...f4kKdwKn1r7sfA

    Pretty good example of aoe tanking.

    From what I noticed people think multi target means just 2 mobs. I typically pull 3 groups so when they say "I tab halone combo and its more efficient." For you to get a combo off on lets say 5 mobs that would take 37.5 seconds to complete. Whereas with flash spam it would only take maybe 10-15 seconds.
    (0)

    I have approximate knowledge of many things.