Thanks for the helpful replies. Now another question. I'm leaning towards WHM as a main now and as I'm catching up doing the quests I can definitely see the mana problems I hear everyone talk about. Is it actually wise to put bonus points into piety and favor it on gear/materia or is it still better to just go full mnd and use Shroud intelligently?

Also would the most wanted stats for whm go something like this? MND > Crit > Det > Spell Speed (Is this really worth it at all? 300 speed seems like what .2 off the GCD? Even if you stacked as much of this as you could get it doesn't seem like it would amount to more than half a second) >PIE

Or do I have that wrong?