Not being able to buy single items from a stack on the marketward.

[Tovin]

Now I have no issue with you selling your stacks of 25 as you see fit, but are you suggesting people that would rather sell their stacks as piecemeal be denied ?

Why is it you can sell what you like how you want, but the rest of us can't ?

I guess I don't understand this - you can sell them as 1 if you want. Just put them up as one. I even suggested the idea of putting in a checkbox for a whole stack that allows them to be sold piecemeal. I'm just saying changing that to a mandatory "allow single items to be bought from a large stack" seems unnecessary to me personally. Not trying to deny anyone anything

[Jinko]

I guess I don't understand this - you can sell them as 1 if you want. Just put them up as one. I even suggested the idea of putting in a checkbox for a whole stack that allows them to be sold piecemeal. I'm just saying changing that to a mandatory "allow single items to be bought from a large stack" seems unnecessary to me personally. Not trying to deny anyone anything

Nobody is asking for it to be mandatory though.

[J_Burton]

you only got 40 slots of market space. People are trying to get the most profit out of their slots.

Yet if we could buy 5 or 10 out of your stack, you could still make profit and save a but ton of space since now you don't have to sell that smaller stack or single item on it's own and take up another slot.

Like Jinko said, it does not have to be mandatory, just implement it so the crafter can choose to allow a stack to be sold in smaller portions. Or make it so the smallest portion you can pull out is 5.

Seriously the idea of pulling out one item at a time is a jumping off point of which further ideas of how to improve the system can stem from. Work out a compromise, don't just shut people down, especially when the idea is not that ludicrous and most people agree that having to buy a whole stack of 99 because that's the only way people are selling is.

[someone7x]

Being a seamstress myself when I want to make something I go to the fabric store and I buy the fabric I need, not the whole bolt, I buy just the one zipper I need not a gross of them, I buy the spool of thread I need, not a dozen of them.

I am a crafter not a storehouse for excess materials, and the system in this game forces us to either buy more than we need or go out and get it ourselves.

The former benefits people who sell, the latter benefits the actual crafter.

This whole argument for not allowing purchase of individual items fails because there is no truth to making more money buy selling in stacks, you make the exact same amount if you sell a stack of 99 to one person as you would make selling that same stack to 99 different people.

[Wulfies]

Sorry, but my 2gil in this. in 1.0 I could sell as singles or as a stack. What happened to this?

As a buyer and a seller in the AH, when i want to craft something and i need say 1 "Horn Glue", I do not want to have to buy 99 just to make 1 item. I have passed on making lots of items because in order to buy the 1 material I needed I was forced to buy 10/20/99. What am I going to do with the remaining? I cant put it back on the AH because your gonna tax 5% and can't raise the price to offset this because the item would be over priced.

As a seller, same holds true, any sales is good. In order to sell my say stack of 20 Darksteel Ingots I would either have to sell em all at one go, which would pretty much mean that the item will stay on the AH till kingdom come or I can sell singles but i waste 1 retainer just on selling Darksteel Ingots.

So like i said above, can you allow for people to sell items in a "stack" of 99 or allow them to sell a stack individually like in 1.0.

[Mikedizzy]

As a DoL and a DoH when i choose to sell a stack of item X it means i am selling you the stack.

I was originally of the other opinion until I myself became a seller. Everyone has to understand that we can only put up 20 items for sale from each retainer and thus if we list everything separate it will take all our slots and not be worth it. The other reasoning is that I want to get rid of all of these at one time and not "part them out" over a long stretch of time. Also by selling low cost items I want to get a bulk of money and not just 1 gil. Perfect example of this is that you cannot go into the grocery store and buy a "sip" of orange juice...you have to buy the entire container. You cannot just buy one egg...you have to buy 1/2 dozen, dozen or 2 dozen. The reasoning is simple you have to buy it the way the person is selling it...that is just the way it goes. I do try and be nice and put one or two in there as to not price gauge someone but we all have to do what we have to do...Start selling stuff and you will see what we mean...love the Market Boards and they are a great revenue stream for a lot of people. There is always the option to go "get" these items on your own...but trust me that sucks and you know this that is why you are in the markets buying them.

[Mikedizzy]

Being a seamstress myself when I want to make something I go to the fabric store and I buy the fabric I need, not the whole bolt, I buy just the one zipper I need not a gross of them, I buy the spool of thread I need, not a dozen of them..

Takes to long to part out items. These are the prices unless you get them yourself. You are paying for a LUXURY service and people do not want to waste slots. Instead of getting to put up my 4,000g greasy belt I can't because I am selling 20 seperate bat wings. I know you are wanting SE to make it so that you can help everyone by buying from the stacks but quite honestly some people do not want to sell items that way and do not want people to have the choice. Sellers want to move stuff off their retainers and make money....selling in bulk helps this along. It would not be fair to walk in to a McDonalds and tell them that they HAVE to sell you 1/2 a big mac for 1/2 the price...selling and buying just does not work that way. Basically SE is not going to be able to MAKE people sell things one at a time...there would be a HUGE outcry and backlash on that front.

[Shisou]

I really don't see the problem here. Yes, your Retainers only have 20 concurrent slots in which to sell things... but they have a full seven pages of Inventory space. I've recently run into this selling Velveteen when I hit lvl 25 and started farming Banemites... I put up three or four 3xUndyed Velveteen(HQ) when I log on, these sell in an hour or two, tops. I get the message, and the next time I'm in town I hit up my Retainer, Split off a few more x3 stacks from my x99 stack in my Retainer's inventory, and post them. I sell for 15% higher than the lowest price to counter deflation, and I make a net profit of anywhere between 8-10k gil/hour after repairs. As a Weaver I know from my Crafting Log that Velveteen is normally used in stacks of this size or slightly less, so that's what I post. *shrugs* Doesn't seem that complex to me.

[Geobryn]

didn't read all the 35 pages but i think all could be solved by adding ability to place buy orders to retainers
i mean if retainers can sell things for us why they could not buy thing for us too ?
they would just place buy orders and wait for ppl to sell them things
also by looking at the market of buy orders you would instantly know which things are in demand and which are not

[Wulfies]

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In your scenario, I would need to check my retainer quite often per day in order to maximize profitability. I would go back to my earlier post, SE had it right back in 1.0. You could sell as a stack or allow people to buy 1 at a time from a stack. Still do not know why they changed this from 1.0 to 2.0...