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  1. #21
    Player
    Zer0's Avatar
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    Ameline Rose
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 81
    Now I haven't played a glad tank, but I have as a mara. It's really not that hard to be honest. Keybind the 1 2 and 3 signs and you're pretty fine. The pulls I had issues with were the ones I didn't mark at least number 1. Because the Thama and the lancer would attack different targets because I didn't tell them which one to attack.

    I think I was a bit under geared to be honest but the conj did awesome job and nobody died.Though from what I can see, glads generate less threat but are a bit more stocky and mara's do more threat but are a bit squishier.
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  2. #22
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    Parodine's Avatar
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    Character
    Cullen Dionysion
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    I know what you mean, I think. I brought GLD/PLD up to 50 first, but I wanna take WHM up next. I took my 16 CNJ to Sastasha the other night for funsies and really began to understand how cure enmity is like. Granted, our tank didn't like doing Fast Blade>Savage Blade and used flash infrequently...but you do understand that side better when you've actually played it.
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  3. #23
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    Synfrag's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Syn Kazama
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Whoops, thought he was the tank. Nobody besides the tank should ever flash
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  4. #24
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    Greytarkis's Avatar
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    Character
    Laura Grey
    World
    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by coldreactive View Post
    I was able to hold aggro against a medica spamming healer (Since they couldn't "Click" on me to target me, and they were upset due to my small size.) It was glorious. (Tam Tara)

    Being a lalafell tank helps me find healers who use the HUD.
    Well if he's like me he just doesn't heal falafels

    I remember this dungeon (CM I think) where one of the tank was just dead most of the time because the second healer was afk or unable to heal him alone, that was funny.
    Silly falafels, when will they learn ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tari-F View Post
    I assume you're joking here, because healers can't use Flash to blind anything... nor does it help in any way with reducing enmity.
    Yup

    Quote Originally Posted by Synfrag View Post
    You should always flash, constantly, even throughout the fight. It is tank 101 skill, gathers hate and blinds to reduce damage. Arguably a Glad/paladin's most valuable skill.
    I'm a WHM mate.
    Edit: ok you corrected it yourself before I answered.
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  5. #25
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    Ignnis's Avatar
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    Character
    Ignis Inferne
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Only agro pull problems I've had is where the tank doesn't mark (even in the lvl 40+) dungeons I still find tanks who don't/don't know how to mark or when the tank can't keep agro after I use bane...once ._. I'm now using fester more now to avoid the second problem more but sometimes miasma 2 or tri disaster (I never use it, used it once when we accidentally pulled a group we didn't want and I wanted to save the tank and healer from being overrun) pulls agro more than I would like.
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  6. #26
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Character
    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 51
    In my previous mmo, Lord of the Rings Online, I found it very useful to level different classes, even if they were not my main playing classes, to get an understanding of what goes on with others I'm grouped with and how to be a better tank.
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    Last edited by Zakalwe; 09-16-2013 at 11:26 PM.

  7. #27
    Player
    Synfrag's Avatar
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    Character
    Syn Kazama
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    It is pretty much a requirement in ARR that you play multiple jobs.
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  8. #28
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    tuseroni's Avatar
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    Character
    Tus Almighty
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 42
    something i learned playing a tank:
    tankin ain't easy. some think it's just "run in there first" flash apparently takes MP not TP like everything else, and MP isn't something my tank has a lot of, keeping enmity off the other players can be tricky, especially when there is a huge creature blocking your view of everyone else.
    two toughest classes is tank and healer, because they are so important to the team. if you loose the DPS the enemies just take longer to die, if you lose a healer everyone dies, if you lose the tank everyone dies. tanks and healers are the most important, so little surprise they get the most flack from the rest of the party and one another. "you didn't heal me enough" "i couldn't i was healing myself because you didn't get these monsters off me" "if you weren't spamming heal that wouldn't have happened" and so on and so one.
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  9. #29
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    Balaur's Avatar
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    Balaur Bondoc
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Tanking Halatali as a Marauder (actually, downleveled Warrior) meant that for a given pull, I could use Flash twice, and maybe a third time before going OOM. But I made sure I did it when I had a Thaumaturge in the party as actions like Medica still develop enmity on slept targets. But so does Flash, and my Flash develops MORE enmity than their Medica. For the most part, I didn't lose enmity on a squad, and one errant monster -- because someone is whaking on him instead of the one I'm on -- going after a party member is acceptable so long as it isn't the healer. If I start seeing the blinking square indicator transition to up-pointing triangle, or down-pointing triangle, then I have to use that third Flash and shift targets. (I still haven't got Provoke, but then that's what it's for.)
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  10. #30
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    Findel's Avatar
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    Girdania
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    Character
    Findel Taralom
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 73
    My favorite (See: most frustrating) time as a healer was healing a Hydra party where the other whm wanted to spam Cure 3. I asked him to cover healing the off tank and that I would cover the main tank. He responded with "That's ridiculous, they stack on top of each other so I'm gonna cast Cure 3."

    I /facepalmed and tried to explain why it was a bad idea, but he ignored me and did this through the whole fight. The rest of the party was already frustrated with him and he was booted. (or left on his own, not sure really) And once we replaced him we got a win.

    But in my experience, there's no need AT ALL to use the AoE heals unless the entire party has taken a considerable amount of damage. And then, I'll use 1 MAYBE 2 to get past the "OH S**T WE'RE GONNA DIE" part and then resume individual heals to each party member to top them off.
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