CASTRUM NERF?

[TheNeoReaper]

I did it with 2 pugs tonight and it took 30 minutes for one and 32 minutes for the other. Not that time consuming. I did end up doing it for 80 minutes on Saturday with a bad tank

Typical... blame the tank.

[Evangela]

It's funny that endgame dungeons required you to have high-level gears, and high-level gears required tomes from endgame dungeons. what a joke.

Castrum is the only place to farm tomes for undergeared players (WP gives too low tomes and AK is too hard). nerfing rewards from Castrum will be a door slam to new players who reaches 50.

[ElHeggunte]

It's funny that endgame dungeons required you to have high-level gears, and high-level gears required tomes from endgame dungeons. what a joke.

Castrum is the only place to farm tomes for undergeared players (WP gives too low tomes and AK is too hard). nerfing rewards from Castrum will be a door slam to new players who reaches 50.

Not really, because Wadnerer's Palace drops gear better than AF that you would use to clear Amdapor with anyway. If they did decide to nerf CM it would slow down the grind for Darklight, but it would in no way "slam the door" on anyone.

[texhnolyze]

Not really, because Wadnerer's Palace drops gear better than AF that you would use to clear Amdapor with anyway. If they did decide to nerf CM it would slow down the grind for Darklight, but it would in no way "slam the door" on anyone.

indeed
most people just skip Wanderer's Palace because the reward vs time consumed is not worth it
even though the gear from WP is better than AF1, such as the iLevel 55 armors, accessories, and darklight weapon

[Robinthehood]

i hope they dont nerf it. it would really suck. everyone likes it the way it is.

[MrKupo]

Are they nerfing it by making it harder, or are they nerfing it by preventing exploiting blind spots?

Because those are 2 different things. I get speed runs, but it feels like an exploit when you can avoid fighting a huge portion of the run.

Having to fight more mobs doesn't mean a harder gear check, it just means a few extra minutes added to the fight.

[AunaYuuki]

Not really, because Wadnerer's Palace drops gear better than AF that you would use to clear Amdapor with anyway. If they did decide to nerf CM it would slow down the grind for Darklight, but it would in no way "slam the door" on anyone.

Try doing wanderers with AF geared DDs. I have heard people rage quit on the 2nd boss because the adds build up. I have been seeing new players in 2.0 with level 20 rings, AF gear, and level 50 trying to do Wanderer's Palace/Hydra. It just does not work. You can do Castrum with that gear set, but Wanderers is iffy. Unless you get carried along by other players. I help in a good bit of LS with newer players because legacy members on my server are encouraged to lend a hand out which is great. Most of them going duty finder with other new players say people RQ on pudding boss and the King way too often.

I don't care if they nerf it like Amdapor where mobs create barriers in front of the boss spots. Yet to make it harder on newer players....who have to do it to complete storyline seems a little unfair.

[UBERHAXED]

Try doing wanderers with AF geared DDs. I have heard people rage quit on the 2nd boss because the adds build up. I have been seeing new players in 2.0 with level 20 rings, AF gear, and level 50 trying to do Wanderer's Palace/Hydra. It just does not work. You can do Castrum with that gear set, but Wanderers is iffy.
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And where else are you supposed to get your gear? Can't use GC gear because it requires AK to be completed. Are you telling me that the intended design was to grind the story dungeon until you can get lvl 70 gear, then run a WP to get lvl 55 gear, then run AK to get lvl 60 gear and to unlock the GC rank to get lvl 50 gear? Crafted lvl 50 gear? Requires drops from the lvl 50 (not story) dungeons.

[Scratchs]

And where else are you supposed to get your gear? Can't use GC gear because it requires AK to be completed. Are you telling me that the intended design was to grind the story dungeon until you can get lvl 70 gear, then run a WP to get lvl 55 gear, then run AK to get lvl 60 gear and to unlock the GC rank to get lvl 50 gear? Crafted lvl 50 gear? Requires drops from the lvl 50 (not story) dungeons.

I grinded out some dark light accessories from Castrum then I started up wanderers place. Alternatively you could just buy lvl 50 accessories on the Market Board and probably be good enough for WP.

[Sumii]

Try doing wanderers with AF geared DDs...snip

I did this last night in my AF WAR with two DDs (1 in AF, the other spiritbinding for crying out loud) with a DF group. We wiped once on the second boss b/c the healer couldn't get out of the way fast enough on the charge. Also, unless DD gear is simply fathoms different than the tank gear dropped, only 2 pieces offer 2 more defense for a whopping 4 defense increase compared to my AF. Some of the stats are trade offs, but there is nothing on the Vermilion set that screams 'instant replacement for AF piece'. I'm so tired of seeing this 'your gear won't work here!' in non-raid lv 50 dungeons when the players are wearing lv 45+ gear. People wearing lv 25 rings and gear in a lv 50 I can totally understand asking to improve their gear. But the lv 45/50 AF pieces were meant to be starter dungeon gear and WP is most definitely not a hard dungeon at all.