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    Kilea Maky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriea View Post
    I completely disagree... there's nothing more rewarding than having a social aspect as a part of your endgame experience. If you all hate each other what's the point? Sure you get things done but a lot of people are probably leaving because they aren't having fun while winning.
    I'm not saying your FC should hate each other. My FC is a subset of my LS. All FC members belong to the LS, as well as others that are not in the FC. We get along fine. However, we're competing with 3-4 member FCs that won't merge and pull some of our best members away because they're real-life friends. These members still expect to run with us, but it undermines the functionality of the FC.

    If you want the social aspect, use a LS. For content, use FCs. If you want both closely tied together, do what I described above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuari View Post
    Sometimes instead of blaming the community as a whole, you need to just step back, and look for a group who is more like-minded. That or adapt.
    Adapting means playing the shout party and Duty Finder game. I'm doing it, and it's ruining the game for me. Meanwhile, one functional static in our FC is shooting ahead and leaving the rest of us behind. Progress comes down to luck, not skill like it does in organized teams.

    As I said, it undermines the purpose of a FC and puts many people at a disadvantage for endgame content. What are we going to do when there's 24-man content? Shout parties? If you think it's hard getting 8 reliable people for 8-man content, just imagine 24-man. No thanks.
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    Last edited by VisionHolder; 09-16-2013 at 03:35 AM. Reason: another reply

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    Kuari Thunderclaw
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    Quote Originally Posted by VisionHolder View Post
    Adapting means playing the shout party and Duty Finder game. I'm doing it, and it's ruining the game for me. Meanwhile, one functional static in our FC is shooting ahead and leaving the rest of us behind. Progress comes down to luck, not skill like it does in organized teams.
    That's when you start hunting down a like minded FC then. I understand when a particularly large FC uses Linkshells to seperate raid groups and such. It works because LSs have a smaller limit than FCs... but if the FC is too small to sustain itself as it is, people need to be willing to step back, rotate people in and help them if you want to maintain a good FC. Can't really blame people for leaving in such a case. You're trying to blame the way people use the tools rather than the individuals themselves. Sometimes its not the problem of the community at large, its just the people you are choosing to regularly interact with. Make new company, see how it goes. Hell, maybe even look beyond your server for when transfers are available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuari View Post
    That's when you start hunting down a like minded FC then... Make new company, see how it goes. Hell, maybe even look beyond your server for when transfers are available.
    I do run my own FC. The problem is that I can't recruit people because no one wants to leave their friends, or if they do, their friends throw a fit and then they have to switch back. My core group is split between a static that gets things done, another that needs more members (mine), and a lot of lower-level players that we're slowly helping catch up. Between not being able to recruit due to "friend FCs", losing people to "friend FCs", coping with the frustration shout parties/Duty Finder, and not having enough organized groups to run anything more than 4-man content, it makes it hard. "Getting over it", as everyone seems to be suggesting, means not being able to satisfy the needs of my FC members while everyone gets frustrated with rude, inefficient shout parties.
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    You're losing faith in the community because they won't follow you? lol

    I guess you could take your members and join someone else's and problem solved right? But then you would have to give up YOUR FC with YOUR friends so better to blame the ENTIRE REST OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE YAY! /caps
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    Last edited by Phogg; 09-16-2013 at 07:53 AM.

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    Arik Dotharl
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    What do you mean "losing"?
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