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  1. #11
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    Anonydort's Avatar
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    Dort Helper
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Head= DL
    Neck = definitely not DL, get an HQ imperial operative choker
    Body = DL
    Legs = DL legs really aren't that great, if you're gonna get an AF+1 piece get the legs first
    Feet = DL
    Hands = Toxtotes>>>DL hands
    Ring 1 = DL
    Ring 2 = Toxtotes (i really don't know a better alternative)
    Bracer = DL
    Earring = DL
    Belt=DL
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  2. #12
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
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    Disagree with the Toxtotes hands being better than Darklight.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Disagree with the Toxtotes hands being better than Darklight.
    you really don't think 11 crit and 15 skill speed is better than 2 dex, 16 accuracy (which gives you absolutely nothing) and 8 determination?
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  4. #14
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    Oni Darklight
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    Moogle
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    Archer Lv 60
    I know getting the bow+1 is a bigger upgrade but right now I am waiting on some of my friends from our linkshell so we can complete as a linkshell so while they are running a little behind I mine as well grab the shirt because that a nice upgrade and next I get my plus one for my artemis bow
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  5. #15
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    Tai Shi
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    Behemoth
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    Archer Lv 50
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  6. #16
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    PandaTaru's Avatar
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    Panda Taru
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    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonydort View Post
    you really don't think 11 crit and 15 skill speed is better than 2 dex, 16 accuracy (which gives you absolutely nothing) and 8 determination?
    +15 Skill speed vs 2 dex?
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...GRlVESlE#gid=0

    taken from:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...enmity_part_2/
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    Last edited by PandaTaru; 09-15-2013 at 11:56 PM.

  7. #17
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonydort View Post
    you really don't think 11 crit and 15 skill speed is better than 2 dex, 16 accuracy (which gives you absolutely nothing) and 8 determination?
    With how skill speed is i'd honestly take 1 int over 15 skill speed....and int does nothing for us. With how much skill speed it takes to even make a noticeable difference you would have to have nothing but crafted gear full of materia III to see said difference(which unless you have 10mil+ to make said gear you will never achieve those results). Skill speed needs a major overhaul if they want people to look forward to the gear it's on, nothing short of a x4-5 multiplier on it currently will make it look more attractive than any secondary stat or minuscule main stat our gear comes with.
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  8. #18
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    With how skill speed is i'd honestly take 1 int over 15 skill speed....and int does nothing for us. With how much skill speed it takes to even make a noticeable difference you would have to have nothing but crafted gear full of materia III to see said difference(which unless you have 10mil+ to make said gear you will never achieve those results). Skill speed needs a major overhaul if they want people to look forward to the gear it's on, nothing short of a x4-5 multiplier on it currently will make it look more attractive than any secondary stat or minuscule main stat our gear comes with.
    from my point of view the main draw of toxotes is better stat distribution, i like crit over determination and at least skill speed gives "something" compared to accuracy
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  9. #19
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    Ani Celestine
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonydort View Post
    you really don't think 11 crit and 15 skill speed is better than 2 dex, 16 accuracy (which gives you absolutely nothing) and 8 determination?

    Would rather constantly hit more (with the +2dex from DL) than get 0.01s more skill speed and unreliable crit rate. But everyone has got their own personal preference. + you're gonna need accuracy for BCoB (which this Thread, I undersrood, was going through)

    Edit: And I'm pretty sure that extra defence and vitality isn't bad for anyone.
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    Last edited by AniCelestine; 11-14-2013 at 06:22 PM.

  10. #20
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    I would personally consider the lvl 49 HQ Ring being a worthy alternative to Toxotes due to the ability to add VIT materia which can actually make a pretty nice difference in your HP values. If survival is something you're concerned with as an entry level coil runner pick one up and slot some VIT. You can also add determination and accuracy on the ring making it have well rounded stat gains overall. I personally used the 49 HQ Spinel Ring over the Toxotes one due to these small benefits.
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