IMO, Titan HM is the most poorly planned progression point in the game right now

[Cailae]

There's no place for a scholar in that fight so I probably wont be getting my relic. I may as well go and re-roll a WHM abandon my scholar relic quest and start again. No one wants to take in scholars.

This is completely false. I just completed this fight today on Scholar. Virus, Sacred Soil, Lustrate and DoTs cannot be underestimated. With 2xSCH alternating virus and using sacred soil you can bring Tumults Damage down significantly. It's easily healed through with Succor spam even at maximum stomps. If no one is taking scholars they are doing it wrong.

[Vequi]

This is completely false. I just completed this fight today on Scholar. Virus, Sacred Soil, Lustrate and DoTs cannot be underestimated. With 2xSCH alternating virus and using sacred soil you can bring Tumults Damage down significantly. It's easily healed through with Succor spam even at maximum stomps. If no one is taking scholars they are doing it wrong.

I was the 2nd Scholar in this Titan HM fight, and he is right on all marks. Quite honestly, I cannot see HM Titan being done without at least 1 Scholar. And don't forget we can throw Eye For An Eye on the tank as well.