How i spent and earned 12 Million gil in the markets

[Raxion]

So, yeah. When I see the level 50's complaining how totally broke they are and how can they "possibly" afford a mere 5k gil to repair their gear... I'm a little miffed

Because while you're out building an in-game trade center, most players are out leveling their classes and farming for endgame gear. Something is wrong with the economy of a game when you can reach a point that you can no longer play your main class due to having no gil. At no point should one be able to go broke just from farming dungeons and repairing gear.

Dungeon runs need to supply a semi-steady form of income to pay for the damage to your gear. I leave the money-making to the people that are interested in it. I don't want to sit around for hours playing Market Board Tycoon, I prefer to go kill something.

[NefarioCall]

Dungeon runs need to supply a semi-steady form of income to pay for the damage to your gear.

^^This.
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[RynaultB]

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"My play style", what a bunch of BS. RL is the biggest MMO, say my play style is to sit around and do nothing... and! I expect to be given cash so I can continue to do nothing(Welfare anyone?). And man taxes!!!! God forbid they ever pull money from the game to keep inflation from happening because no gil would ever leave it. What is this the current POTUS' style of print money and make it rain to fix the economy? Inflation only hurts an economy.

They are trying to keep RMTs to a minimum. If you want easy access to gil then a year or two down the road, I forsee people like you complaining about everything being so inflated. And that you have no way of getting the gil to buy the things you want.

[Kyp]

Dungeon runs need to supply a semi-steady form of income to pay for the damage to your gear. I leave the money-making to the people that are interested in it. I don't want to sit around for hours playing Market Board Tycoon, I prefer to go kill something.

AK gives more than enough money to repay ur gear now, just open the chests

[Leafcore]

thats nice for you but none of that would've been possible without that 4.3m you carried over. now do it with a new character on a non legacy server with no "help" and I'll be impressed

Take a look around on other forums. There are a ton of people who level up goldsmithing and weaving etc from lvl 1 and have 4mil+ purely in profits since last week. It has nothing to do with how much he brought in. Anyone dedicated and smart enough can make bank.

[flavored]

I concur.

I entered balmund as a fresh player come 2.0, with no knowledge of the FFXIV markets nor any capital, just my experience of other MMO economies - knowing this was a legacy server and there'd be players out there with oodles of cash, I immediately looked "up" to see what could be flipped, traded and what opportunities would exist; afterall, if I can start trading with the big boys, then I stand to get into their inflated sub-economy. And indeed I have had no trouble obtaining hundreds of thousands of gil already from a standing start.

So, yeah. When I see the level 50's complaining how totally broke they are and how can they "possibly" afford a mere 5k gil to repair their gear... I'm a little miffed

Well, not everyone in this world enjoys mining and gathering all day long just to make a number of ingame currency. Sorry about that.

[Nikki]

"My play style", what a bunch of BS. RL is the biggest MMO, say my play style is to sit around and do nothing... and! I expect to be given cash so I can continue to do nothing(Welfare anyone?). And man taxes!!!! God forbid they ever pull money from the game to keep inflation from happening because no gil would ever leave it. What is this the current POTUS' style of print money and make it rain to fix the economy? Inflation only hurts an economy.

Well if you are doing nothing ofcourse you are not getting anything. But end game raiders actually do play a lot and end came content is quite hard. They deserve to make comfortable amount of GIL without doing something like crafting or gathering that they do not enjoy. But if you look past your own nose for a change you will understand what i am saying.I dont know how you got the idea that running end game hard mode dungeons is asking for welfare.

Stop being so loony please.

[ChanceSkeleton]

This thread is stupid.

[Razla]

Well if you are doing nothing ofcourse you are not getting anything. But end game raiders actually do play a lot and end came content is quite hard. They deserve to make comfortable amount of GIL without doing something like crafting or gathering that they do not enjoy. But if you look past your own nose for a change you will understand what i am saying.I dont know how you got the idea that running end game hard mode dungeons is asking for welfare.

Stop being so loony please.

Deserve? No one's entitled to anything. You can sell mob drops if you want to kill things. If the stuff you get just from proceeding through the story is not sustaining you, go mob farming. I saw one drop from lvl 15 monsters selling for 200/piece with a very good drop rate. That's potentially 18k in 30 minutes.

Sell your crystals. I have a bunch just from proceeding through the game, and that's in spite of trying to level several different crafting classes.

Also, this moaning and groaning about DoH/Dol is ridiculous. You can make quite a bit of gil with a very, very low level miner/botanist (lvl 5 - 10). It makes no sense for people to rake in gil for doing nothing beyond what's standard (endgame raiding is part of the normal story and is therefore, standard) and you don't even have to spend that much time gathering to have a decent amount.

re: Endgame raiders... And what's with this, and I keep seeing this in the boards, 'all you DoH/DoL' and 'all you DoW' nonsense? Our class change system is such that I imagine most people would be leveling BOTH, with an emphasis on the latter. There are plenty of "Endgame raiders" in my FC who have high-level DoH.

[Vinta]

There's a fundamental flaw here. All of this moving of merchandise requires the money to exist in other peoples' pockets. I would have called you a genius and given you a good show of faith, but you failed to address the major issue in the game's economy: The lack of methods to generate gil from nonexistence. Everything you've said in your original post is great, but if people are trading gil between themselves instead of generating it from an NPC or quest rewards, then the flux of people depositing the gil into nonexistence via repairs or the occasional vendor purchase will cause a slow and steady decline in the market.