Ampador Keep Nonsense.

[LunarEmerald]

Some advice.

1. Don't say it's your first time unless someone asks.

2. Watch the dungeon on YouTube to learn how it works and how to do the fights. I played with a white mage earlier, who was doing it for the first time and did a great job because she studied the content beforehand.

[Sove92]

AK is really not all this difficult, you just have to know what you're doing. The problem isn't people who are new to the dungeons, they can always learn and get better. The problem is people (new or not) who refuse to listen.

Got to Demon Wall with full-AF and Ivory Staff (LV 49). We actually did some decent DPS on it, but we were running out of time so we just left after two attempts. The first boss took a few tries because the tank had troubles holding aggro etc. but my gear was never an issue to us, because I knew what I was doing. Some people just judge players based on their gear only...

I just don't have the patience to farm Meridianum over and over again for tomes, I want a challenge, not a boring grindfest.

[Brumble]

To EVERY player who thinks this behavior is justifiable.

If you don't want to group with new players, why are you exposing yourselves to the possibility.

The answer is pretty simple.

A. You're attitude sucks, and other established players don't want to group with you.

Or...

B. You're in such a big hurry that you can't take the time to find like-minded players to group with.

Either way, YOU are the problem. Not someone whom you are not even giving a chance. I can understand leaving if a group is really bad, but when you are such a d-bag that you drop instantly... Might as well switch to whatever class is currently getting the fastest DF queue, let it pop, then withdraw again and again. Troll the new players without taking the time to actually zone.

[Kiroh]

Got to Demon Wall with full-AF and Ivory Staff. We actually did some decent DPS on it, but we were running out of time so we just left after two attempts. The first boss took a few tries because the tank had troubles holding aggro etc. but my gear was never an issue to us, because I knew what I was doing. Some people just judge players based on their gear only...

I just don't have the patience to farm Meridianum over and over again for tomes, I want a challenge, not a boring grindfest.

I ran a new party through there the other day, 2 of them didn't even have the map achievement and the other had never beaten the last boss. I explained the bosses as we reached them, we wiped a few times (naturally) and eventually they cleared the dungeon. It took us about 90 minutes but for a first time through they did a great job and learned pretty quickly from their mistakes. I also had another group where one was new, I tried to explain things but all he did was ignore me and cop an attitude. When I asked him why he was laying dead for 15 minutes he just said "whatever, I'm only here because I need the f*cking quest". I wished the other two good luck and immediately dropped the party.

The point is, your experience in the dungeon isn't as important as your willingness to listen and learn from your mistakes and lots of new players are just people who need some help, like we all have at some point.

[Shirosama]

Some advice.

1. Don't say it's your first time unless someone asks.

2. Watch the dungeon on YouTube to learn how it works and how to do the fights. I played with a white mage earlier, who was doing it for the first time and did a great job because she studied the content beforehand.

While your not entirely wrong your second point is. people wanting to enjoy the content and learn should not have to youtube the fights etc the game wasn't made for that. you get a better understanding doing the fights and dying more so than watch someone else do a fight on youtube. To that point as a healer i took a group on a garuda run and explained very minimal details to them just enough that they would survive until stage 2 of the fight. yes we whiped a few times but each time they got better by the 3rd try they had it down and it went flawless

[Livi]

Design flaw, trash mob in this game is literally trash. They dont drop anything good, they drop you 1 gil. No1 wanna waste time and repair fee for those boring fight.

However elitist in this game is unacceptable, the game is just out for 2 weeks and they pretend everyone know the mechanics.

[MeldorQC]

The problem is simple. Lack of end game content. Token gearing is the mmo reality of these days. Let players repeat same content over and over to get a virtual piece of gear.

Why there are 20+ dungeons all the way to 50 and only one to farm at end.

With an average of 20 mins per AK runs, you need about 40-60H of farming to get a full set of dark light, it's ridiculous.

I don't mind clearing trash, helping others learn the game but at least make it fun DEVS.

Also giving 1gil per boss is a sad joke when it cost a minimum of 300-600 gil of repair.

[Farhes]

Look, it sucks, I do not like these people because I was in your place once, but seriously. They are making a party and if they choose not to include you than its their decision. One the other hand, I am sorry the tank left because you never have done a speed run before, but it happened, just brush it off.

Do what I did, I am a Sch healer (sometimes WHM if I feel like it) and In the past 4 day I have added and been added to many peoples friends list to heal for them or have them tank for me. I did this by first shouting that I was new LF AK, eventually I got someone to invite me. I then learned and now I have many choices of people without having to do the dungeon finder.

It happens, it is the nature of the world, ya it sucks, but youre not going to change it with a forum post.

<3 Jacorvin

[Calyanare]

Just the other day, a BLM in my FC, who already has a full set of Darklight armor, said a tank left a DF AK group he was in, saying his (the BLM's) gear wasn't good enough. *shakes head*

[Vydos]

I usually have the patience to help people on their first time doing any instance. However, I admit that I had days where I didn’t want to bother explaining things.

This mostly happened on a day where I went through the effort to escort a full party of new players through the dungeon. First boss went really well but then they kept wiping at demon wall. And it was always the dps that was the cause of the wipe. Eventually we ran out of time, meaning that I had wasted 120 mins for no gain except a heavy repair bill. But I got over it. I then proceeded to queue up for another run with other people, that also kept wiping at demon wall and then at the final boss. Again…ran out of time = 120 mins wasted.

I ended up wasting 2 x 120 mins for a minimal amount of tomes. I was annoyed that day, really annoyed. That I didn’t want to do another run with newbies the following day. And I ended up leaving the moment I saw that someone was new. But eventually I got my good amount of speed runs and gathered a lot of tomes. Which resulted in me being tolerant to newbies once more.

Long story short. We sometimes have our days that we just don’t want to go through certain crap again.