Black Mage is OP

[glim]

//That's why a lot of archers comes out on top, they really...don't have that many support abilities to consider.//

songs!

[Crevox]

This BLM in particular is actually doing the rotation poorly, but regardless of that, it's normal and fine.

[kukurumei]

songs!

A lot less busy then most of the classes out there in terms of support, some of them don't even bother to switch the songs, if they even use it.

[emmgee]

Damage of a single ability != DPS.
BLM don't have an autoattack.

[glim]

A lot less busy then most of the classes out there in terms of support, some of them don't even bother to switch the songs, if they even use it.

that's a terrible deduction and the same logic could be used on other classes, bard songs are in demand most specially in our group. you see a lot less BLMs casting heals than a bard casting his songs.

[kukurumei]

that's a terrible deduction and the same logic could be used on other classes, bard songs are in demand most specially in our group. you see a lot less BLMs casting heals than a bard casting his songs.

That's exactly the point you yourself dug the hole with. I never said songs are not good.

Effectiveness of doing your job to win the battle does not equate to doing damage. Yet your second sentence completely reverses your first.

You do what demands of the situation. If a Blm has to spend his entire time healing and supporting, and it has happened, then it needs to happen. Brds songs are bard songs, what of it.

Forumers like to armchair stuff. Sometimes it works, sometimes, that's just elitism bickering, when they're probably pointing fingers at each other for failing a run.

A well oil machine is going to win, we already know that.

[glim]

no, I was refuting your "bards are on top because they really don't have much support abilities to consider"

my second sentence totally supports the former, you implied that bard songs are insignificant that some wouldn't even bother to use it, insignificant in your mind perhaps that you would bother saying "they don't have much support abilities to consider". you would consider a BLM's heal more than a bard's song for you to make a statement like "archers don't have support abilities to consider", you are the one digging your own hole, so much inconsistent fallacies and mincing with words to try to make sense out of your irrational opinion.

my "the same logic could be used on other classes" I'm not using this to support my argument, I'm using it since you used the same logic on bards, and that you outweigh it's valuability but you applied on a BLM.

[glim]

and it is a terrible deduction.

here is your logic.

A. Bards are better because they lack or use their support abilities.

my counter.

B. BLM are better if they don't use heals and support abilities.

mind you I only used BLM since it was your example, I do not know who has the best damage right now.


and you fail to see that support abilities on bards are not "support abilities to not consider" when songs are much more considerable than a BLMs heal, of course it depends on the situation but we are generalizing here, and this is not a closed particular.

[Allyrion]

Slow, big numbers have more shock value that consistent little ones. Especially when we lack reliable parsing.

Black mage regen phase allows for high burst. Just basing off of numbers isn't good.

[Vindicate]

Well given the fact that healing as a BLM is just a waste of global cooldowns, in tough bossfights are single target heals equal to a hot tick from a healer nothing, its better to go offensive rather than trying to rule the world with those heals, primaes are unforgivable when a healer dies ^^