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[Aletta_Serpentia]

I find all this so damn funny because I look at these people, and every single one of em were new players. It really makes no sense to me these attitudes people have in the 50 dungeons.

In a way it's good and bad. Good in a sense that the game is showing success and bringing in new people and a new crowd.

Bad in the way that we know that a lot of the crowd doing all the bitching are people from ... -insert mmo you dont like-

[Kiyashi]

Too many AK elitists honestly lol What I did though before running it was I went and saw a speed run video on youtube before doing it. That way I can at least know what i'm going up against. I ran it and didn't say it was my first time running it. I did die on the demon wall because I didn't know he could knock you off of it. But it happened to the rest of the elitist players I was with too lol so we just went back and took shortcut and now I know how to handle not falling off the fight.

The boss also is pretty easy. Just handle the adds and get behind a statue when he does his big charge move. Honestly too many give that place too much credit and expect dark light and relic or primal fight weapons to clear it. I can tell you right now that you do not. a GC weapon and AF is all I had and we cleared it very easily. The tank and other players were geared the same.

[Aletta_Serpentia]

Saw this in another, very recent post. still think we need that ilvl 70 huh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAda5...ature=youtu.be

gear is just a tool. not a skill. although certain tools make certain jobs easier, in the real world, you wont always have said tools at your disposal. I see where in some situations tools are necessary, but this is not one of them..

[schism]

I just don't understand the mindset of some people! I love to tank, and I have done perfectly fine thus far and I am sure I will continue to do just fine. I don't mind wiping, I mean it is just a video game and I like to keep it fun. Helping new people through new dungeons is actually fun if nobody is a complete douche bag. It saddens me how shitty this community is right now for the most part, and I sure hope it changes :/. Having fun and wiping because new people are learning the fights doesn't mean you suck at the game, just means you know how to have fun and keep it friendly.

Well said man. I miss the ffxi pre abysea community. After the free trial it will get a lil better.

[Astralis]

The sad thing about this is that those who are elitists are mostly fairly new to this game as well. Everytime I encounter one, I view search info them and most of them have 1 level 50 class.

If there is any right to become an elitist it should be those legacy players who are max on almost every class.


But nope, these legacy players are actually the nicer ones, who laughs when you get wiped, still chill even though group fails a few times already.

[Aletta_Serpentia]

The sad thing about this is that those who are elitists are mostly fairly new to this game as well. Everytime I encounter one, I view search info them and most of them have 1 level 50 class.

If there is any right to become an elitist it should be those legacy players who are max on almost every class.


But nope, these legacy players are actually the nicer ones, who laughs when you get wiped, still chill even though group fails a few times already.

cause you already know/heard... thats all we did in 1.0!!! wipe for sport!!! good times..

[Matsume]

Okay, let me try:

Me (whm in full darklight) and two DPS friends queue up for AK speed runs right? Pug the tank, no big deal. We get this scrubby WAR, right? My friend: we doing speed runs, you done this before? Him: yup! We kill demon wall and the tank teleports to next floor and looks both ways like "where do i go?" Anyway, he runs it to boss and I raise him and he doesn't get into position for Anantaboga, so my DPS friend is like "You have done this before right?" Tank: "Well I had to make something up to get up to this boss didn't I!?" We kill it. 45 mins, meh...

[Sixteen]

It probably doesn't help that many DPS are guided to AK by their GC questline, and unless AK is cleared, that method of gear upgrading gear is completely locked out. The only way for me to upgrade gear is to hit the palace again and again - it's a bit of a frustrating experience from my standpoint to essentially be yelled at for following my questline, but I eventually got the message.

You occasionally find a group that communicates like a civil group and gets things done, so it isn't all bad. In my experience, when it comes to MMOs endgame, the loudest players are often the biggest liability to the group. It's always give them everything they want or they're going home with their toys.

That is true, I myself did AK in AF gear for the first time back during the release week. I have also done it with a friend who ran out of gold and is not using any armor since its broken, but we still cleared it pretty easily. However, what AF gear has become is an indicator that the person is LIKELY to have no idea what they are doing. It is an inevitable conclusion people will draw after failed groups and react to it accordingly. I think this is quite normal for a new game, it wasn't much different in Tera or even GW2 where gear isn't a huge factor to begin with. This issue is caused by the hardcore and casual groups being thrown into the same content, once there is higher tier content the entry level in this game should become much less hostile.

you know, it wasnt really like this around 1.0. but now, this item level bull**** really lets people who already had gear to be some real elitist aholes.

people really forget that a week ago, they were still new to all this. I mean really. it makes no sense. gear!=skill. item level was the stupidest thing ever to bring into this game.

Skill is a loose term in MMOs, gear is always the first thing you look at. When you are picking between two people who you know nothing about, why would ever choose the one with inferior gear? In 40+ AK runs I have not seen a bad DPS in darklight gear, is it coincidence?

[Dyvid]

Honestly I think the current end game community is a perfect example why you need to join a Free Company. As weird as it seems people are more likely to stick their neck out for a brand new guild mate than some stranger of the street. Also you're less likely to run into these elitist A******* in a FC then you would in random situations.

[Redxice]

Not to bash you i do understand and it's really stupid. but you should just que and say you have done it. first of watch 5 sec of youtube and you understand what speed running that place is like... all the bosses are easy.

I've done it one time first time i did it was a speed run i had watched prolly 1-2 min on the dung and just followed, played along rly. and the bosses are a joke.