Gil Spammers and sellers - a petition for a solution.

[goony]

i usually turn off shout and yell when i go into citys to not see these people, made a seperate tab for fc and other forms of communication, when i leave the city i put shout and yell back on

[shandreax]

Yeah, in order to enjoy the game we have to shutdown more than Half of communication options in game OR fill our blacklists up(which is a pain in the ass to do). My friend just got on game today and had to track me down in person and jump in front of me and use emotes since I had /tell /shout /yell /say off so he could get added to linkshell and free company. Fell sorry if some new player tries to ask me for advise or help I would seem like a complete jerk because of this.

[TunaSalad]

Do you all really think SE isn't going to fix this? Of course they are. And they've said it in dev posts. People get a life and learn to overcome little annoyances that will be fixed. It's as freakin easy as creating a new chat tab for cities that you switch to that filters out shout. Takes 20 seconds to setup and 2 seconds to switch to once you step into city. You people are such babies.

[Demeos]

Wanna get rid of gil sellers?

Add an in-game item that grants the redeemer a month of paid subscription that can be purchased directly from Square-Enix with real money and either used to pay for a month's subscription or sold to other players for gil. Square-Enix still gets paid their monthly fees and players with disposable in-game incomes get to save a little extra money each month, meanwhile the players who would be interested in spending real money for gil end up sending their money to the creators of the game instead of shady characters who'd just as soon turn around and rob you blind.

This in-game item should only be allowed to be sold to other players via the market. No direct trades. This should prevent scamming.

[KisaiTenshi]

Not 100% sure on the numbers but in Neverwinter if a person that was posting Spam, Gold sellers etc...had 5, 6 or 7 or more people right click his/her name as a Spammer within a 1 minute time frame, that person could no longer type in chat for 24/48 hours or so and needed to submit a Ticket to unlock themselves from chatting. Now in Neverwinter as it is F2P, they could probably just create another account and start all over again (after a mandatory 15 minutes tutorial) as in this game they would need legitimate paying accounts.

For me, I found it worked well enough, in this game as I play mostly solo for the time being, I pretty much ignore the chat box but like others said in here, as soon as I zone, literately 50 lines of Spam Gil Seller messages fly by in that box. Just no way I can find the time to put them on ignore one by one.

Wow I didn't know it was that much worse on other servers. I'm on Excalibur (Legacy) and for the first few days there was only private message types of gil spam, and then in the last 2 days, every town's zones has them. Here's the thing... nobody has been able to create new characters, so these are all v1 characters that either were previously spam or were hacked since v2 started (the one bot I found, was wearing both Unique and Untradeable gear from a Level 15 dungeon, which means that someone was at least played it till then.)

As for what SE can do:
- Whitelist (friends)/Greylist (people in this zone, last-shout coordinates)/Blacklist (abuse/spam), and apply a type of report karma to them. eg (number of friends - blacklists = greylist value) with negative blacklists being restricted from all but auto-translate communication
- automatically take a screenshot before showing a report form
- Be able to right-click on a username in the chat or if you can physically find them and hit report after a double-confirmation. "You are reporting (NAME), continue" - "Are you sure you wish to report (NAME)? The user will be added to your blacklist and reported for (HARASSMENT|SPAM|RMT|SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR)"
- As per the suggestion above, throttle anyone posting faster than 50wpm.

[Deadra]

I've found expanding the chat window to full screen slows it so you can actually copy and paste the names.

Copy, open Blacklist add them then open support and report, go on to the next. I have blacklisted so many, I have to scroll down twice. Good news is, I noticed today that many at the top of my list were {deleted}.

When you expand full screen chat, it's not hard to do. Takes about 2 minutes to report and blacklist 7-8 of these guys. Use your copy and paste function.

Keep in mind they made a post regarding this, whatever you do, don't talk to them if they private message you.

Well read this, it was posted on the 6th.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...33498e43afd6f4

[Cylestea]

/signed

this is a huge issue on diabolos as well

[jjh76]

When blacklisting, no need to copy/paste. Just click on the name in the chatbox, select send tell, replace "/tell" with "/blist add", and then put quotes around the name.

For spam you get in PM's, you can set up a user macro like this:

/blist add <r>

and it will blacklist the last person who sent you a tell

[Hamingju]

Do you all really think SE isn't going to fix this? Of course they are. And they've said it in dev posts. People get a life and learn to overcome little annoyances that will be fixed. It's as freakin easy as creating a new chat tab for cities that you switch to that filters out shout. Takes 20 seconds to setup and 2 seconds to switch to once you step into city. You people are such babies.

i think your missing the point. yes, you can do exactly what you said. but then, what is the purpose of shout and yell in a city? also, they are not just doing this in shout and yell. i get direct tells all the time. i don't spend a lot of time in the citys so its really not an issue for me. banning these people runs into an issue where there appears to be a 200 person limit. also, if your going to say the devs said something point us to that, with a link.

[DannyB]

The reason I posted this petition is because they posted on the 6th about taking action and 1 week later I now have 8x the spam I had 1 week ago. This clearly shows me that their methods are currently not working effectively. It's nice that they banned 518 accounts, but there is a growing problem rather than a problem that simply needs policing. It is my belief that they can optimize their work by empowering players and this is what I hope comes to their attention. I think the suggestions for such a system here are fantastic and I hope they are all considered. Ideally, we want to treat the problem and not the symptom. I think many of the suggestions here would help alleviate the issue.

speaking of suggestions, I would like to see the following:

If a high number of people blacklist a name (say over 100?), That individual would be flagged and would be locked from /shout /tell /yell / say until their profile was reviewed for consideration (something that would have to be requested from that player). I believe something like this would easily empower users. If the account was hacked, most likely the hacker would also abandon the account (as opposed to requesting to be unflagged again) in which case the real player might get a chance to reset their standing as opposed to being permanently banned. a moderator could easily determine if the flagging was legitimate upon review and take any necessary action.