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    Controllers create more mistakes, less accurate targeting and camera speed, OBVIOUS performance limitations, and if you're not near a PC to use a voice chat program you're an even bigger liability.

    Sorry, but there's more than enough reasons for any min/max team to exclude console players. Or just any team that wants to guarantee victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZyloWolfBane View Post
    Controllers create more mistakes, less accurate targeting and camera speed, OBVIOUS performance limitations, and if you're not near a PC to use a voice chat program you're an even bigger liability.

    Sorry, but there's more than enough reasons for any min/max team to exclude console players. Or just any team that wants to guarantee victory.

    Looks like people were on point with the elitism PC players displayed. as i already proved this to be false. i have yet to be inconveninced at any point and time on a ps3 vs a PC. you should probably actually learn how to play properly with a pad 1st if your ego allows it. as all of that is false.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOracle View Post
    Looks like people were on point with the elitism PC players displayed. as i already proved this to be false. i have yet to be inconveninced at any point and time on a ps3 vs a PC. you should probably actually learn how to play properly with a pad 1st if your ego allows it. as all of that is false.
    I played the Beta on my PS3, the performance just in FATES was abysmal, lack of quick access to hotkeyes and reaction times with the camera are always going to be an issue as you're using a gamepad on a slower performing platform.

    Sorry that you're so vehemently butthurt about the truth but it doesn't change it. Just because YOU don't personally feel inconvenienced doesn't mean the rest of the people forced to party with you agree equally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZyloWolfBane View Post
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    You realize that the FATE problem is shared by both PC and pS3 problems, right? or do you not read well, in fact, ps3 pad can actually target mobs faster then a PC with the r2 pad. just because you fail at learnign how to use controller properly does not mean someone is butthurt it simply means you lack the intellect to properly learn how to use a pad correctly. truths can be proven, and your bad opinion is not truth.

    I'v had no issues with any party i have been in, in fact i have been complemented many times, not knowing what system i am even on, Try again. I'm sure in your little world that may be hard to accept, but that is indeed the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOracle View Post
    You realize that the FATE problem is shared by both PC and pS3 problems, right?

    Shared how? I don't have performance problems on my budget PC that I built, other than the server culling done during the Odin/Behemoth fights which is a serverside problem.

    I'm talking about all the other FATES or just about anywhere with too many people/objects on the screen, the PS3 can't compare to a PC...not even a crappy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZyloWolfBane View Post
    Shared how? I don't have performance problems on my budget PC that I built, other than the server culling done during the Odin/Behemoth fights which is a serverside problem.

    I'm talking about all the other FATES or just about anywhere with too many people/objects on the screen, the PS3 can't compare to a PC...not even a crappy one.
    There have been multiple complaints from PC players about mobs not appearing, players not coming up, and many people even crashing during them. you don't research very well do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOracle View Post
    There have been multiple complaints from PC players about mobs not appearing, players not coming up, and many people even crashing during them. you don't research very well do you.
    Neither do you, cause other than the server culling there's a known GPU Driver problem. Try again.
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    Last edited by ZyloWolfBane; 09-12-2013 at 02:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineOracle View Post
    There have been multiple complaints from PC players about mobs not appearing, players not coming up, and many people even crashing during them. you don't research very well do you.
    That's called culling...its a client/server feature to reduce load and atm its coded poorly. (i think its server in this it doesn't even send you the other data)
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    Last edited by SKYeXile; 09-12-2013 at 02:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZyloWolfBane View Post
    Shared how? I don't have performance problems on my budget PC that I built, other than the server culling done during the Odin/Behemoth fights which is a serverside problem.

    I'm talking about all the other FATES or just about anywhere with too many people/objects on the screen, the PS3 can't compare to a PC...not even a crappy one.
    I play using the default 'high end' laptop settings on my gaming laptop I bought at the end of 2011 for over 1k. It displays a LOT of people, but I still have issues seeing big boss monsters in FATEs unless I am literally on top of the mob. (Example: Svara, Behemoth, Odin, etc.) The problem here isn't how many models are displayed, but rather how SE prioritizes them. There's been a few threads about this... SE should prioritize it as... monsters > party members > non-combat npcs > other PCs (FC/LS members > non-FC/LS members). That way, no matter how good your computer is, you'll still see the important things first. Non-party PCs are not as important to you when you are trying to kill a monster with huge AoEs you can't avoid because the monster isn't loaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    I play using the default 'high end' laptop settings on my gaming laptop I bought at the end of 2011 for over 1k. It displays a LOT of people, but I still have issues seeing big boss monsters in FATEs unless I am literally on top of the mob. (Example: Svara, Behemoth, Odin, etc.)
    That's server culling, has nothing to do with your computer. It's a serverside problem as I was explaining above.

    Guild Wars 2 did the same thing.
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