F.A.T.E: The Truth you don't want to hear.

[Ares_Nocturnal]

Lets just face the fact here, you guys are crying over a new game that has not even been out for a month yet. There's still so much they are gonna add its just a starting point things will be tweaked, new content added, and new ways to level. Give them a chance to implement new things (Fates for DoL I hope). Why not try to figure put a new way to exp yourself? I'm sure in a few months or so people will have a nice way to exp party without fates. Stop complaining and start throwing out contrastive ideas. The dev team is listening but I'm sure there tired of seeing people cry and moan.

[Sunoske]

Lets just face the fact here, you guys are crying over a new game that has not even been out for a month yet. There's still so much they are gonna add its just a starting point things will be tweaked, new content added, and new ways to level. Give them a chance to implement new things (Fates for DoL I hope). Why not try to figure put a new way to exp yourself? I'm sure in a few months or so people will have a nice way to exp party without fates. Stop complaining and start throwing out contrastive ideas. The dev team is listening but I'm sure there tired of seeing people cry and moan.

I don't Really see who's complaining, or did you not read his post? o-o This seems more like a rebuttal imo to the people who complain about how fates need to be nurfed and whatnot. o-o

[Polantaris]

Honestly, the problem isn't FATEs at all. It's that they're the only thing to do.

So you played through the entire game on your main class, you got Level 50, you got awesome gear, you did a ton of dungeons...but now you want to try another class. So you switch. Now what? There's nothing to do.

All of the quests in the entire game are done. Hunting Logs don't last all 50 levels, or even til' 15. Levequests have horrible EXP output. Dungeons take forever to enter for most classes. Regular grinding is laughable, at best. The only thing that gives an acceptable EXP quantity is FATEs. There's no point in gear grinding for non-maxed gear, so by extension there's no real point in doing a dungeon that's not end-game.

[Polantaris]

Leve Allowances are so low that you could never use them for leveling, even if they gave an acceptable reward. I found myself trying to do them when I needed to level in Coerthas, because FATEs are plain impossible to get a gold on in that area as an Arcanist (No AOE, so no participation reward). I buffed the difficulty to +5 (when it recommends 0), fight mobs 5 levels above me, if not more, and get less EXP than a FATE where I have to do nothing.

FATE EXP is fine, the problem is that nothing else gives an acceptable amount of rewards. People complain that others are leveling too fast, yet at the same time will also say that the game doesn't begin until you're max level, or there's no point in doing anything prior to max level. So why do I need to mindlessly and tirelessly grind to max level? It shouldn't be an ordeal, but it is, especially if you don't do FATEs.