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  1. #111
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    Furious's Avatar
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuvu View Post
    With dps meters the issues with tanks will get worse, as it stands now tanking is a pain in the ass with dps, dps dont give tanks a chance to get agro and if they do pull agro they dont have enuff sense to stop attacking. Once we get dps meters all they will care about is numbers..
    There are already dps meters. If dps are pulling mobs off you, let them die. It's an easy fix.

    Its a snooze fest, doing ifriti its all i can do to stay awake.
    Then don't do it, or better yet, do it as the sole tank and stunner. Once you know it, easy content is always a snooze fest.
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  2. #112
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    James Carver
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    To what Voqar said, this is exactly what I do in dungeons, except I am doing a bit of tab targeting when I get a healer that's like Repose whats that? and I end up Just tanking everything use a CD a pull. The Shield stun move the name escpaes me atm is a great way to slow the spike dmg down some.

    My 3+ pulls with no CC go like this

    Mark em, 1,2,3 ect
    Click off Regen/whisper
    Throw Shield, Rampart
    Flash x2
    FB, SB, RoH target one
    Flash
    Sheild stun target one
    FB, SB target one
    tab
    target 2 RoH
    Shield Bash target 2
    Flash
    FB, SB target one
    tab
    ROH target 3.
    Flash
    Shield stun target 3

    Unless a DPS goes apesh*t on target 2 or 3 before I get to them, I almost never loose aggro.
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  3. #113
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    Zehring's Avatar
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    Bruce Banner
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Ive seen many people saying its hard to tank and its just not true. I have tanked every dungeon up to Amdapor keep, and i have had ZERO issue with people pulling aggro from me, unless im being lazy or not paying attention. Ive started fights that were 5-6 mobs at once with the healer or bard healing/dps'ing before i could attack, and i still managed to keep things under control. Did they take damage? Sure, but were they ever in danger of dying? Nope. If you wanna be lazy and just tunnel vision the mob with the big 1 over its head then you're gonna have problems, but if you rotate your enmity attacks on mobs and watch the threat meter, it's not an issue. I make it my mission to never lose aggro in a dungeon, and the closer i get to succeeding at it, the happier i am with that run. As far as tanking being boring to you..ive got a full hotbar of 12, plus about 6 other abilities that i use on a regular basis. If tanking is boring to you, maybe tanking is just not your thing.
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  4. #114
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Lack of tanks is partly due to how unfriendly endgame is not for them.

    Hardly anyone is willing to teach them what needs to be done at certain boss fights and their way into the boss fights.

    Also, few advice where they can get proper gear.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 09-12-2013 at 01:18 PM.

  5. #115
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    Kyp's Avatar
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    Kyp Halcyon
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 70
    I actually think it is a good thing DPS can do enough damage to pull off the tank at endgame, it raises the awareness required to clear content both for the tank because he has to keep an eye on the threat meter for the entire pull of mobs, and for the DPS because managing thier threat is THIER JOB, maximize Damage without filling the threat meter to full is exactly how they are supposed to play, if tanks could just hold through anything and everything that would be not balanced
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  6. #116
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    Aerenvel's Avatar
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    Aerenvel Evermor
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Being one of the few good tanks, its not just a problem of the numbers but ive been lvling a dragoon at like 44 or something and Ive had to literally switch to my pld to tank just because if I do get a que after 45min the tank always seems to fail. a few dungeons, titan and garuda. They do need to give plds a little more aoe threat but I never have any trouble on 3 or less targets, its when its a bunch of small adds come and we want to AOE em down and flash works up to 3 times before diminishing returns nulls it, and circle of scion has a really long cd. Idk I like protecting people ive always been a paladin in every game its what I do so I don't expect people to do it as well as I do, Maybe they should implement some training guild hest for new tanks or something, and the repair bill for my pld has got up to 6k which is crazy something should be done about that aswell.
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  7. #117
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    Glakan's Avatar
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    Golm Thedestroyer
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 23
    My only complaint after playing a MRD is that if your Party is derpy derp and don't let you time to grab aggro you will be out of Technical Points (TP) super fast. It sucks because it isn't your fault that you have to spam your buttons it's the damn DPs that wants to pull for you or attack different mobs each. I was in a party where the Lancer was always attacking a different mob then I did a archer who pulled then just spammed her AoE. Even the healer was on my side and telling them to just wait and not rush. But to no avail they wouldn't listen.
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  8. #118
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    the GCD sucks for tanking

    the buffs for agro are at later lvls (30 for War , 40 for PLD)

    lack of aoe at low lvls (war has overpower spam i guess) , but pala needs circle of scorn at 35 (30 for shield oath)

    flash as OCD will be an amazing change
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 09-12-2013 at 01:34 PM.

  9. #119
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    Bruce Banner
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerenvel View Post
    They do need to give plds a little more aoe threat but I never have any trouble on 3 or less targets, its when its a bunch of small adds come and we want to AOE em down and flash works up to 3 times before diminishing returns nulls it, and circle of scion has a really long cd.
    Keep in mind that just like many other games, when you get pulls with trash(Garuda feathers, Meridianum etc), the tank isnt really expected to hold all that aggro, even if they can. You pick out the dangerous mobs and lock them down and let the dps take care of the rest, and even with the mobs beating on them, it would take a while with no healing for them to die.
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  10. #120
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    Aerenvel Evermor
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    ya if someone pulls for me I let them tank it for me aswell and 9/10 the healer agree cause he don't want to tank it after the dps does lol.

    And you don't tank the garuda feathers the dps burns them down while you tank garuda away from the pillars cause if the pillars die before she goes boom then your team dies, and ill be tanking alone, or if dps don't burn em down they blow up on the pillars.
    Don't know why you say the feathers are trash mobs confusing...
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    Last edited by Aerenvel; 09-12-2013 at 01:34 PM.

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