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  1. #51
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    Dastard's Avatar
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    Blaze Driptorch
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    This argument is ruining my immersion.

    Oh, and it's boring and it's been done to death and ps3 limitations. Grass quality. It's just beta. DX99 support. Thanks.
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  2. #52
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    Kentucky Wildcat
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Just like any issue, there aren't just "elitist pc gamers" and "terrible ps3 players". The reality, however, is that ps3 players will have worse performance than the average pc user. In terms of end-game, when performance/communication/player skill are most important, ps3 players are at a distinct advantage. PC gamers have the capacity to have higher average performance, better communication (or at worst; the same as ps3 players) and better skill due to the range of motion allowed by mouse and keyboard being superior to a controller. Those are all facts.

    It doesn't excuse people being dicks, or honestly probably won't matter for the majority of players who won't be on the cutting edge of progression anyway, but I, personally, would never even consider trying to do end-game early on with the distinct disadvantages that the PS3 inherently has versus a computer.
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  3. #53
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    Calvnor Sy'feron
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    It's not a social issue friend, it's a tactical issue. It's no different than guilds in other games not allowing players to raid without a voip; vent, mumble etc. In FF14 especially, due to the multi-party system, communication is extremely important. SE just needs to incorporate an in-game vocal chat system, then this issue would be a thing of the past.
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  4. #54
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    SoopaMan2K's Avatar
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    Lynx O'
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    This. I got a friend hooked on FFXIV and he's on PS3 and I gave him a keyboard because he wasn't using one. Most times they're open to better ways of gaming but you have to tell them about it.

    Also, is it possible for a PS3 user to run a chat communication program on PS3 while it runs their game? Anyone know if PS4 is going to be able to?
    PS4, yes. PS3, no.
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  5. #55
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    Xanthe Dreadcasque
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 70
    The only time I can imagine PS3 users having issues will be going into Ivory Tower with 24 people. Even then... We only have problems with FATES because there are usually like... 75+ people ontop of the mobs that spawn as well.

    If you're not being allowed into a FC because you can't see the FATE mobs all the time than that's pretty much BS/a terrible FC. I play PS3 and have no problem running 8 man dungeons with the mobs on the screen and rarely have any issues playing the game (often times I do better than some of the PC users playing in dungeons :/)
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  6. #56
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    Kazeni Aisu
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Strangely, between the ps3 that I use, and the recently souped up pc that my husband uses, I find he has more trouble in FATEs than I do. Complains he can't target anything, meanwhile I've learned how to target quickly on ps3, getting as much as I can out of it. Granted, I had the advantage of the beta to get used to it (beta ran REALLY choppy on ps3). As a cnj, i tend to stay back a bit anyways, I wouldn't attempt to be in the thick of it, poor ps3 would explode!
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  7. #57
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    Lynx O'
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 50
    Meh. PS3(PS4), PC. Potato, Patato.
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  8. #58
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    Forsedar Dragnil
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    Behemoth
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    Lancer Lv 50
    The running issue with PS3 vs PC players is performance. To claim that both types of players will have equal performance at the same skill level is ridiculous and you know that. Moving out of continuous "bad" things while sustaining maximum DPS is not entirely possible for someone with a controller. There is a maximum DPS for a PS3 player and a maximum DPS for a PC player. The same can be said for healing and potentially tanking. I'm not sure if many have seen Turn4 in Coil, but I would take an average PC player over an excellent PS3 player in that situation any day.

    Its not a matter of "looking down" on them. We all want to succeed at whatever we're trying to accomplish and will avoid anything that may impede that.
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  9. #59
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    Ceol Ashwin
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Veis View Post
    I see more PS3 people accusing PC players of being elitist than I see PC players persecuting PS3 players.
    You must not have read this thread, then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doki View Post
    Because the crossbar is way too limited a control scheme for hardcore playing. Sure the proud desparate few skilled PS3 players could get it down, but anyone could play better on PC than they could on PS3 hands down. Targeting on PS3, even with filters set up just right, is still a fetid pile of garbage.
    Ugh I know. I hate being able to easily target party members as a healer. It's the worst! It makes my "hardcore playing" absolutely futile. And using abilities? Pshaw. Who ever thought putting triggers on the back of a controller was a good idea? It's totally inaccessible.

    Because the frame rate on PS3 is horrid.
    I also hate how the poor frame rate on the PS3 hurts PC players. How could you ever play knowing there are some people experiencing the game at a lesser quality than you?!

    Because the majority of PS3 players don't even use a keyboard with their system at all.
    We all know that random low-level PS3 players who you will never interact with not using keyboards is definitely a huge problem and warrants looking down on every PS3 player.
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  10. #60
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    Kentucky Wildcat
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    People using your own experiences as evidence that you are right are funny. The facts are the facts. PS3 has performance issues, communication issues, lower range of skill. Even if you are the best player in the world, and you play on ps3, it's irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things; the average player would fare better on pc than on ps3. Fact.
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