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  1. #91
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    yeah the AF2 look nice... but 11 week for get it at do AK in speed run? no way!!
    i'm a tank... not a rabbit dammit, nor a stun stick.... or worst a rabbit into a tincan using a stun stick... *sighs*

    i did tank while the whole beta (from p1 to p4), i did level up the paladin from scratch (and marauder to 28) and seriously i'm pissed by how the tank are treated... why work so hard to learn how to tank with a group of crazy dps that don't let you hit a damn target or worst that attack different target.
    without talk of the healer that prefer attack or use only medica and let you almost die without healing for more of 20 seconds.

    the leveling experience was thrilling... and seriously i don't know for the other... but i feel like i'm useless... like all i did until reach Amdapor was... useless. all the epic battle i have face, all the dungeon beaten with impossible setup... for what? be a rabbit? stun stick? a tincan?

    god, don't tell me i'm the only one frustrated by all of this?!?

    @furious (i have seen after my post): i know, but go ask in dutyfinder to let you do this... if you miss one eruption here come the trouble.
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 09-12-2013 at 12:03 PM.

  2. #92
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    Bluesnacks's Avatar
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    Character
    Kokoba Koba
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 55
    tanking is pretty simplistic on my warrior, meaning it isn't hard for me to hold threat. It's a lot of fun too
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  3. #93
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    Furious's Avatar
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rassiel View Post
    That "snap aggro" is only a slight boost in hate directed at the target. Provoke is great before 50, at 50 it's better then using Shield Lob or Tomahawk, only because of distance, otherwise it's not very good. I'd sooner spam damage abilities with additional effect: Increases Enmity, then use provoke which has a 40 second cooldown to save a healer mid fight x.x
    You're very, very wrong about provoke.
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  4. #94
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    Scrubbs's Avatar
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    Character
    Scrubbs Myzahne
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Going to raise my hand as a PLD who enjoys tanking so far. Sure no raids yet, but as far as dungeons go, it's been a blast
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    War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.

  5. #95
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    Rassiel's Avatar
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    Rassiel Fallsmeyer
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    How many of these are available to Marauder? Uh. Flash (2 second blind that everything at 50 seems immune too) Convalescense isn't any where near as useful as we'd like it too be. Foresight 20% Base defensive boost, (good stuff, when it's up) Bloodbath (is terrible.) Mercy Stroke (only available when the enemy is under 20% health, doesn't heal you unless it hits). Inner Beast (Can heal for approximately 1800 on a crit, Very nice.) Second Wind (Available from Pugilist but not base Marauder), Feather foot (20% dodge increase whoopdie doo).

    No ACTIVE damage mitigation for magic, which beats us down pretty much every time. Inner Beast and Storm's Path do heal on hit, but Storm's PAth is just like Bloodbath, and it takes away from the threat rotation. RAmpart isn't, Sentinel isn't, Hallowed Ground isn't, Shield Bash (Best bloody stun in the game) isn't, Awareness (isn't).
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  6. #96
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    Rassiel Fallsmeyer
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Furious View Post
    You're very, very wrong about provoke.
    Please provide me with some examples, I'll use it, but the threat gain i'm seeing isn't nearly as useful as i'd like it too be. My next post will provide some clarity to my situation, so perhaps people may understand that I am not infact, trolling.
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  7. #97
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    wormed's Avatar
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    Character
    Wormed Facebreaker
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    I like tanking in FFXIV. Hated being a tank in EQ and WoW. I enjoyed tanking a lot in TERA but their servers are absolutely terrible when it comes to latency and ping spikes.
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    lol, udead.

  8. #98
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    Zaiken's Avatar
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    Character
    Celestia Raine
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    No worry, if you're a good Tank in this game, unlike other MMORPG out there you will get recognized in this game and more people will respect and praised that you did a great job at the end. Tanking can be frustrating when the DPS don't listen or attack different Target or have the attitude of it's always the Tank or the Healer fault. Sometime when DPS keep attacking other mob and pulling hate and run everywhere I just let them died. Or if someone giving you a bad time or trash talk you, just tell them that you're gonna leave and they have to find another Tank to Tank for them. Remember that we as a Tank have a very short que time and always in control of the battle and where to go, but DPS they have to wait hours for Que and if they don't listen, they will died.
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    Last edited by Zaiken; 09-12-2013 at 12:18 PM.

  9. #99
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    Furious Laughter
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    Ravana
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rassiel View Post
    Please provide me with some examples, I'll use it, but the threat gain i'm seeing isn't nearly as useful as i'd like it too be. My next post will provide some clarity to my situation, so perhaps people may understand that I am not infact, trolling.
    If you die on a boss and get raised, then provoke, you are tanking again.
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  10. #100
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    DivineOracle's Avatar
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    Sacred Sage
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    Hmm I think armor degrades just by casting skills in it, not just getting hit. And if you're doing the most work as a tank, your party needs some learning. I find tanking to be fairly lazy when you have a group that knows what to do, even if you fudge up a bit. Take Tonberry King for example, easy, fast strat is to just tank and spank, while dps classes run around frantically killing adds.
    Seems everything people do degrades it, i have been in fate groups where as a whm if i even stand there doing nothing i start seeing messages of my "armor" has droped to 10% i have yet to prove if this is the case with normal parties but this was alarming to say the least.
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