Tomes farming feedback.

[silentwindfr]

it's pretty amazing how people, simply because they have nothign to get at kill trash think is normal to avoid it..

well that not the point here, you want some fix? simple:

1) aggros is group based, not only one character
2) get the monster in this dungeon have a loot table. actually they almost all drop nothing
3) give us more than one dungeon for "farm" the token (i'm talking of the mythical one there)
4) reduce the damn freaking number of token needed!
5) get the craft mat out of the token vendor!
6) make each boss give Gils as a sort of reward for have kill/destroy it.
7) finally don't make the action drain the durability of the armor... or reduce it a loot.

if you do all of this... most of the trouble will be solved and everybody will be happy.


ps: before i forget get praetorium and castrum give reward, armor, weapon from the empire anything is good... to do this dungeon for only get 100 tome is... well you get the point.
you can't expect people do something for nothing...

[Furious]

AK
Wanders palace - no point until you cap mythical for the week with ~8 runs of AK.
praetorium - significantly less tomestones than AK per time invested, and no gear drops.
meridium - see above
bahamuts coil - if you can get to bahamuts coil, you have no need of anything short of mythical, which means lol more ak.
oh and the three primals - until you get your weapon, then worthless (besides the miniscule reward)
i have my schedule full
among the rotation of events including helping others clear content( to prepare for the 24+ man raids)
also CRAFTING

too much variety for me atm

If you have that much variety it's because you aren't interested in efficiency. I am glad for you, but that's not the way a lot of players play.


Wanderers should give Myth stones at the end.
Primals should give tomestones equivalent to their time investment vs. dungeon time investment.
Pratorium/Meridium should give gear rewards... seriously, why no drops in these places? Are they meant to only be played through once? It should also give myth.

Crafting is a separate issue and there are a great many DoW/M who have no interest in them.

[neverendingxsin]

Speedruns are not hurting the community.

As a healer i'm more than open to helping people learn boss fights, in fact i'll even accept a few wipes because hey everybody has to learn eventually. But if people aren't willing to listen or continue to do stupid things (get hit by repel, don't dodge AOE's, refuse to try and learn, etc) then I have no problem leaving because I don't have time to deal with that.

You guys act like speed runs are killing dungeons, but face it they aren't the problem at all. With or without speed runs you will still encounter groups or people that leave for various reasons. For example if i que for a 2 hour dungeon and get in and see that people are extremely undergeared, I may just leave right away because i'll take that 15 minute penalty over the countless wipes that will more than likely occur.

[neverendingxsin]

Here's solution to your problem: RUN WITH A FREE COMPANY OR LINKSHELL!!! I can't tell you how many times I've pugged AK... oh wait its ZERO. Why? Because i'd rather run with people i'm familiar with, instead of random players. Its nothing against the random players, but i'll take players I'm familiar with over a pug any day because its just easier. Its like this with every single MMO, pugging will result in stress/anger/fatigue/crankiness/etc because you risk the chance of getting people that are total idiots.

[neverendingxsin]

If you're level 50 and don't have a FC or LS then maybe you're doing something wrong, because every person I've ran into has been more than willing to give helpful advice and never once have they been a total jerk to me. The solution is simple, STOP PUGGING YOUR DUNGEONS! If you're going to do ifrit, garuda, titan, AK, or whatever just get some people from your server, check their gear, make sure they know fights (if somebody doesn't then teach them) its truly that simple. I fail to see how speedruns are killing the community, when really its pugging that's killing you guys. Stop pugging and your issues will go away I can promise you that!

[neverendingxsin]

Also i'm FOR speedrunning because I don't have time to kill every single trash mob, most of the time I can only get on for 30 minute to hour periods (sometimes 3 hours) and its easier for me to do some speedruns then have to kill every mob.


I took a brand new tank through AK today and helped teach them all the fights, and guess what? If i had tried to do that with a pug it would've never worked. So instead it was 4 of us from the same server and we did AK. No issues whatsoever.

Stop blaming speed runs for your issues, and start blaming pugging for your issues. Because every time somebody in my LS complains about a run we ask them "Did you pug it?" they say "Yes" and we say "Well that's why you're having issues".

[neverendingxsin]

Seriously every post I see blaming speed running for these issues is hilarious because the truth is when you pug you put yourself at risk for dealing with issues like this. Also i'm fairly certain WoW had something like this in Azjul Narob where you could skip a boss, and guess what? Nobody complained about it, was it ever 'fixed'? I don't believe so, and i'm glad it wasn't. The boss was pointless and after doing it a thousand times you get sick of it.


Also i apologize for a bunch of posts but this 1000 character limit is meh.

[Soulfire]

Also i apologize for a bunch of posts but this 1000 character limit is meh.

That's putting it nicely. It's absolutely terrible! You can get around it by editing afterward, but that doesn't stop it from being a hindrance.

[chrismeyer35]

Also i'm FOR speedrunning because I don't have time to kill every single trash mob, most of the time I can only get on for 30 minute to hour periods (sometimes 3 hours) and its easier for me to do some speedruns then have to kill every mob.


I took a brand new tank through AK today and helped teach them all the fights, and guess what? If i had tried to do that with a pug it would've never worked. So instead it was 4 of us from the same server and we did AK. No issues whatsoever.

Stop blaming speed runs for your issues, and start blaming pugging for your issues. Because every time somebody in my LS complains about a run we ask them "Did you pug it?" they say "Yes" and we say "Well that's why you're having issues".

noob question...whats pugging?...is that when you use pugilists or what?

[Hector]

So when i have to do a dungeon 10-20 times depending on the Item i need, I have to make a new player to the dungeon happy by spending over an hour slowly going threw the dungeon killing all the mobs (witch don't drop anything but some crafting items and its like a 15% DR for basic items) don't forget its lv 50 so no one needs EXP.) because they think its stupid to run threw a dungeon to get it dun in under 20 min so that I can continue on with the other 19 freaking runs i have to do. You people if you have any ambition for having a character capable of participating in End Game and new End Game you wouldn't care about speed runs. Its the Designers fault for not making the monster useful there in no reason for me to want to kill them at all. Why should i have to shout for a speed run party why dont you all shout for a "Nub First run Party"? so fucking deal with it . Oh and don't do a lv 50 dungeon with lv 20 30 gear just don't there level 50 for a damn reason. KthxBai