Gear level, the final nail in the games coffin.

[Tyrial]

Ehhh AK is doable with af. Asking for more than af from pugs for AK is the kind of elitism OP is talking about.

It's hardly elitism to expect that somebody gets their Ifrit weapon or at least a decent GC weapon before they jump into Amdapor. Running it in your AF is fine, but not being able to pull your own weight is another story. I've had more runs than I care to count where DF has slapped me with a decent healer and garbage DD who can't put out the numbers needed to down Demon Wall.

[Amyas]

It's hardly elitism to expect that somebody gets their Ifrit weapon or at least a decent GC weapon before they jump into Amdapor. Running it in your AF is fine, but not being able to pull your own weight is another story. I've had more runs than I care to count where DF has slapped me with a decent healer and garbage DD who can't put out the numbers needed to down Demon Wall.

You realize most players don't have ltn rank already and have to clear the Keep to get the ltn rank, don't you? Smh. And I'm sure (elitist) people ask for at least that for Ifrit hard too. Its a no win situation with elitists.

Don't get me wrong, I think if you decide to do hard content you should gear yourself, but if I catch someone whining at me in AK when I'm in vermillion gear with a mogaxe and two pieces of DL because I have a lvl 38 bracelet (gil issues, need to spam leves, but I'm banking on getting a ilvl 60 one in the keep), I'm leaving pt, and said pt would lose a decent tank that knows how to keep hate and knows how to avoid obvious attacks.