Gear level, the final nail in the games coffin.

[Rydiah]

I think its needed honestly. I haven't reached endgame yet, but I know I'd be aggravated if I waited to get into HM Titan only to get a tank who was wearing a bunch of level 30 gear. I also like to be prepared for that kind of thing, knowing what ilvl is needed helps me figure out if I can pull my weight in a fight or if I'm simply not ready. I might be wrong, but I imagine this will be restricted to DF so you might be able to form your own group with that tank in level 30 gear.

My problem with gearscore is that you get people trying to put groups together that will refuse to take you unless you significantly outgear whatever it is you're trying to do. Of course people will always do this, I've already seen those type of shouts.

[LordMaitreya]

Why is everyone missing the fact that square will be setting the gear score requirement for dungeons through the duty finder?

Stop crying about "elitists". If they have to out gear the content by having a gear score required that's higher than SE's that would make them bad.

[TaruPower]

QQ more, can I have your stuff?

But no seriously, this is such a minor thing to complain about. If you think people weren't picky about your who they let in to parties in FFXI I imagine that means you didn't play it at all during it's early years. Right now the game is bustling with activity, so if you don't want to play with the kind of people who care about GL than don't.

[GoddessEtna]

The only people complaining about this are the ones using level 45 white weapons and level 30 jewelry while trying to leech off an AK group.

[Zumi]

The only people complaining about this are the ones using level 45 white weapons and level 30 jewelry while trying to leech off an AK group.

Same people also doing the same thing in Titan Hard Mode.

[Devilray]

FFXI was my favorite MMORPG, and yes, I know this isn't XI, and everyone here hates XI, but I'd liked how in XI, in those end-game raids and the like, people didn't complain about your gear. They just had fun doign it, win or lose. I'd like to at least get XI's awesome community back.

Changes like this prevent a good community from forming.

Excuse me, you are very wrong!! FFXI is notorious for being a gear checker. If you did Voidwatch or Odinv2, or anything like Nyzul Isle floor 1-100 runs... /shout REM (Relic, Empyrean, Mythic) or GTFO!! Even the XP parties before Abyssea came out was full of gear checking. You must not be referring to hardcore events, or you have been spoiled by the Adoulin expansion. Don't know where you got that "oh it's fun to win and lose mentality" from. No one on Asura's serious end-game community had that kind of attitude from what I know. You are wasting the whole alliance's time and gil/hour by losing in Dynamis and other events.

There's a reason people gear check: weed out the n00bs, and drastically reduce the chance of failing in a DPS race or damage healing.

[Valsh]

"the final nail in the games coffin" Holy hyperbole batman, what a load of garbage.

[Pooky]

Every pet issue for someone = END OF THE GAME!!!

[Pooky]

FFXI was my favorite MMORPG, and yes, I know this isn't XI, and everyone here hates XI, but I'd liked how in XI, in those end-game raids and the like, people didn't complain about your gear. They just had fun doign it, win or lose. I'd like to at least get XI's awesome community back.

Changes like this prevent a good community from forming.

LOL. I literally had to quit the game because NO ONE would invite Samurai to their group unless you bought million gil sniper rings. Every class had their "You better be wearing so and so" or you won't be invited. heck every LFG advertisement was littered with, "I have this gear and this gear and that gear, please invite me". That game was the prime example of elitism.

[Deedsie]

Then maybe we can have a nice community again, like in XI.

I still have not forgiven them for their attitudes towards Red Mage. I'd rather not have that line of thinking dragged over here.