Gear level, the final nail in the games coffin.

[SakuraInoue]

@ Op, can I have your stuff before you quit, only gear level 90 please

[Hayward]

I'm going to reserve judgement on this until I see it for myself. If it is simply a guide outlining minimum recommended gear levels for a fight/dungeon, then it's no big deal (even less so if no one else can see it). It doesn't seem likely that Yoshi would OK something like Matsui did (rather badly) in Seekers of Adoulin.

As far as the elitists go, they're going to be d-bags whether or not this is implemented. Best to blacklist them and keep it moving.

[Nadrojj]

Welp.

Now people will be even more elitist.
but I'd liked how in XI, in those end-game raids and the like, people didn't complain about your gear. They just had fun doign it, win or lose. I'd like to at least get XI's awesome community back.

There is a difference between being elite and wanting to win the instance you are placed in. If you are doing 50 content with subpar gear you are just holding everyone back.

What 11 did you play? You weren't doing any significant endgame if you had terrible gear, people weren't there to have fun, they were there to win.

I wonder if you are one of those people who queue for AK in full af.... sounds like it.

[zaviermhigo]

I just have one question, who do you guys think are the elitist in this game? The new people? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Ok I'm done. Its the XI players, who quit XI a while ago, came to XIV during 1.0, stayed there. End of 1.0 the only people left were elitists and people like me who stayed cause it had the best damn crafting and gathering system. XI people were the same people kicking people out of parties for not having good enough gear, they are the same people doing it now. They just taught other non xi players how to do it. For those of you who left 1.0 early, or who didn't play, 1.0 was a cesspool for XI elitists, the types that quit before Treasures of Aht Urghan because 'they completed the game", losers irl basically. Don't let elitists get to you, playing video games is all they're good at, they have no real life talents, you would laugh at how pathetic their real life is.

Honestly, on a more on topic note, this system eliminates some of the elitism, elitist can only be elitist if the knowledge of how to be "broken" (geared out for the not in the know) is fairly unknown. IF suddenly you're queuing up and it says "need ilevel 70" bam, there you have it, you know what gear to go get to do this. With duty finder, the internet, and other conveniences, they only difference between elitist and normal players are, elitist did it first, put up the youtube video, and we all copied em, its not a wide gap.

[Craniux]

Apart from 1017.

if you still geting error 1017...there is something wrong with ur internet

[lucied13]

@op

I had many cases were i went to AK and people had dps lower than tank mainly due to gear, why should i suffer because some people dont like to farm for their gear and want other to carry them. i dont mind carrying people with bad dps but certainly not lower than tank especially because of gear.

bottom line this will make it easier to get good groups and not people who make others do the work for them

[SuP3R_Ch1cKeN]

How is it any different then XI? In XI you had to have certain gear to make things easier.. ridill.. k-club.. thf knife.. relic.. just to name a few.. the same people that say you need 65+ GL stuff are the same people that would kick you for not having good rings/earrings in XI.. pointless argument because unless all gear has the same stats then you will ALWAYS have this argument weather the game say GL70 or not.. Without GL it would just turn into Tank needed(Full Darklight/Ifrit or higher weapon).. Instead of complaining on the boards go find a LS that wont mind running Amdapor while you tank in cobalt armor because you were too lazy to get AF..

[XodoK]

Final nail? What were the other ones? I am curious now.

[Talligan]

Sorry if you wanted to play RDM/WAR and melee things with 15% ACC in level 10 gear against level 50 enemies and make the exp/hour drop by 30-50%.

Eh? I wasn't complaining about it or saying that I didn't participate in it or stuff like that I was just setting the poster straight on what kind of game FFXI was.

[TitaniaZero]

I like the gearscore thingy for the same reason everyone hates it perhaps. Its a goal post. You look at the number and go... *sigh* Not high enough to have the DF let me in. I need to grind my brains out in that other place to get better.

Finally you reach that number and you give a happy sigh of relief. Now I can run that DF without people thrashing me for it. Or at least not as badly as before.

A goal post. A point to reach and strive for. Its better than having nothing to go on. Without it you have dumb luck or hateful jerks to contend with. Such things are unfun. Well Dumb Luck can be fun but most often than not its an hour of frustration and hairpulling trying to figure out what the heck you are lacking. In Longstop I, my group's tank, was the issue. Not our DPS and not our healer. It was I with terrible gear. After several runs of good luck drops in the tank gear department there we were right as rain. An ilvl (and those tank pieces to drop earlier) could have spared us the heart ache when facing that last baddie. XD