Gear level, the final nail in the games coffin.

[Trikki]

Ifrit weapons are lower level and (generally) have worse itemization than Titan. Nowhere did he say you need Titan weapon to kill Titan.

Wait, what?

This is what I'm worried about. Unless I have gear equal to or better than the gear being dropped in the content I'm trying to enter, I can't enter. That makes NO realistic sense whatsoever. "Oh, you want to fight Titan Hard Mode? Do you have a Titan weapon? No, do you have something better? No, you don't have anything better than what drops from Titan? How dare you, GTFO"

That kind of behavior is going on in FFXI right now, new content drops great weapons. All of the groups doing the new content, require that you have these weapons before you do it. Exclusionary much? I'm not interested in that kind of behavior.

[davidbowie]

anything else you would like to complain about today or is that all ?

i just love entering a duty finder to find out that we have players with no gear on or wrong gear yet all during the beta phase complaints game to easy yet we still have people who can't figure out what gear to wear when its plainly displayed, nude tanks and healers in tank gear yes thats the game i want to play, hell yes we should be able to make sure the people have correct gear on why even bother raiding if you are too ignorant to even take the time to gear right!

[zaviermhigo]

As much as this sounds lame, this is actually a good thing. So many people go into AK and WP and honestly they have really crappy gear. The only thing this won't fix is people with appropriate gear, who still don't know how to play their class/job. This game, to do dps, you will need the gear, but you have to have knowledge of what to use when, to maximize damage. As a healer, I get annoyed most of the endgame is a dps race, and I can't do anything to help that. Don't say "you can heal the dds", honestly 90% of the time, if I have to heal dds, they are doing it wrong ><.

[Jinzuki]

FFXI was my favorite MMORPG, and yes, I know this isn't XI, and everyone here hates XI, but I'd liked how in XI, in those end-game raids and the like, people didn't complain about your gear. They just had fun doign it, win or lose. I'd like to at least get XI's awesome community back.

Changes like this prevent a good community from forming.

so much this... there is nothing more i want in this game then a bunch of ffxi vets to play with because i know those bunch of people to be genuine. this is what happens when you try making a game too casual and mainstream. you get immaturity and assholes.

[Shiyo]

Are you kidding me? That game was terrible for it. People would get kicked out of grinding parties in Valkurm if their gear wasn't up to snuff, let alone higher levels. FFXI was terrible for forcing you into cookie-cutter job/subjob combo's as well and the community embraced it. Don't look at FFXI with rose-colored goggles, for the first few years of its life it was a cesspool of scum and elitism.

Sorry if you wanted to play RDM/WAR and melee things with 15% ACC in level 10 gear against level 50 enemies and make the exp/hour drop by 30-50%.

[Synns]

Yep think this is the last straw, this game has already managed to get a pretty horrible community. Gearscore will just give them more reason to spout elitist bull****.

[Dad]

Gear score is completely fine if it is internal and can't be seen by other players, the system is possibly being put in place so you can't enter level 50 raids/dungeons with gear that is 20 levels below you. If it is external though, get ready to welcome in the elitism that people are mentioning. I personally love internal gear score (being used for duty finder and things like that) and hate external gear score (something you can view while examining a character).

[Bizniztyme]

Final nail on the games coffin? Is this game already dead or something?

[Keres]

Gearscore in itself is not an issue, nor is the duty finder item level restriction. You should be barred from entering AK if you're wearing item level 30 gear, and having the game verify that you have some semblance of a reasonable gearset before queuing for certain content will help prevent clueless players from wasting other peoples' time. The real problem is idiotic players who try to impose ridiculously inflated requirements for easy stuff (full DL to run Amdapor), but that has nothing to do with gear score, and is easily solved by not running with those people, and instead running with your own friends who actually know what they're doing.

[Hanabira]

You dont understand. its to prevent people with cheap vendor items from trying to fight hard mode titan. If you have anyone that is less than ilv.70 it is IMPOSSIBLE to win, no matter how "skilled" the ilv.40 person is, their numbers just wont do it. And before anyone mentions "ilvl doesnt mean skill" i bet you for every 1 decent person with no gear, there are 1000 unskilled ungeared people. who wants to play those odds with hour long waits in the duty finder?

as someone else mentioned, the game itself is a gear check. if your tanks gear isnt good enough, he dies too fast, if the healer's gear isnt good, the tank dies. if the dps' gear isnt good, the healer runs out of mp and everyone dies. ilvl check is meant to prevent this. Sure, at level 30 you can do the dungeons in level 15-20 gear and still win, but endgame is FAR less forgiving. even in proper gear, you can be killed in 2 or 3 hits.