Gear level, the final nail in the games coffin.

[Amyas]

Yea I did notice this and it was puzzling, is the only one I have seen like that, maybe its incorrect ?

Hmm maybe we should submit a bug report for it? At least with all the other vermillion pieces you're sacrificing a bit of determination from af for (slightly, like, 2 points) more def and a ton of parry, the body stats very well could've been fudged.

[Dartanis]

Right ... because the laws of physics wouldnt allow someone to record an encounter while commenting on the strategy unless theyre a gear snob who excludes those who arent way past the required gear score for an ezmode fight.

The vids that are posted as guides are normally one shot kills for w/e boss or a speed run for an instance. While gear plays a part it is not the be all end all. Aside from being able to tell what kind of gear a person is wearing from a number it can also tells me how much time they have put into their toon. If I decide to pug titan HM and come across a dps that does not have a weapon that is equal to are better then the one Ifrit drops of course I'm going to exclude him.

[Dartanis]

A continuation:
Because this usually means that even though he is attuned to Titan HM he has probably on run Ifrit HM and Garuda HM once or twice. Bottom line elitist do not want players in their runs that do not put in the time to improve their toon and game play and we do not want you in the run if you do not know the basics of your class.

[Flionheart]

The only problem I have with Gearscore is that it'll be easy to dupe. You could wear completely class irrelevant gear, and still be accepted.

[Talligan]

FFXI was my favorite MMORPG, and yes, I know this isn't XI, and everyone here hates XI, but I'd liked how in XI, in those end-game raids and the like, people didn't complain about your gear. They just had fun doign it, win or lose. I'd like to at least get XI's awesome community back.

Are you kidding me? That game was terrible for it. People would get kicked out of grinding parties in Valkurm if their gear wasn't up to snuff, let alone higher levels. FFXI was terrible for forcing you into cookie-cutter job/subjob combo's as well and the community embraced it. Don't look at FFXI with rose-colored goggles, for the first few years of its life it was a cesspool of scum and elitism.

[Evilized]

So op, what you are saying is that you want to go into dungeons with terrible gear and be the reason 3-7 other people are wasting their time trying to beat something rendered impossible due to your own selfish desire to be carried?

Go away.

[Aenarion]

Are you kidding me? That game was terrible for it. People would get kicked out of grinding parties in Valkurm if their gear wasn't up to snuff, let alone higher levels. FFXI was terrible for forcing you into cookie-cutter job/subjob combo's as well and the community embraced it. Don't look at FFXI with rose-colored goggles, for the first few years of its life it was a cesspool of scum and elitism.

Couldn't' agree more, OP isn't just wearing rose-colored googles here, he's gone and glued actual roses in front of said googles

[Syrellaris]

Gearscore is a blight, it can and mostly will ruin mmo's. It feeds into unwanted elitism. You don't need a full set of the best gear just to do a specific instance, however people do need to take some responsibility for there gear. Logically you can't run a lvl 50 instance with lvl 20 gear.

[RowanLauron]

Elitism: a method by which people attempt to make themselves seem more powerful than they really are by being arrogant and boastful. The opposite of being humbly proud of accomplishments (non-being a dick...er...non-elitism)

What do elitists do? - Elitists gather like-minded people who have the best gear available and run content with said people. They easily conquer the content because they have the best gear you can obtain. They crave challenge because the game is "too easy". They have cleared it with such ease, but will not go out of their way to invite lower geared people, or people new to the content.

Why do elitists do that? - What the elitists REALLY want is for nothing to change. They want to run with the same people time and time again to bash their head against the same content to gear other jobs/characters/classes. They do not want more challenge. They want to keep the path of least resistance. Bringing in new people to teach, or undergeared people will upset that "easy win" mode they have going for them. They will have to take time to teach people the mechanics and the how to's, while carrying the undergeared players even though they may be a skilled player who just doesn't have the gear to reach the elitists' groups expectations.

This is what it means to be elitist. Again...Not to be confused with being humbly proud of your accomplishments.

[TrystWildkey]

If I decide to pug titan HM and come across a dps that does not have a weapon that is equal to are better then the one Ifrit drops of course I'm going to exclude him.

Ignore me, I totally misread your post, this is why I shouldn't be here until I've finished my coffee >< My apologies to you sir.