If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you are holding back your team at endgame

[AttacKat]

A swiftcasted raise ...
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What are your thoughts?

You died? My friend, you aren't ready for endgame yet; wait until Extreme mode.

jc

[Xeffer]

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Whether or not the OP is "QQ'n" doesn't matter. Even if you know a fight inside and out there is always going to be a percent of error where you may make a mistake or factors beyond your control cause you to die. Regardless Swiftcast is not just for raise, it's for all of your abilities which effectively increases your HPS. There's no reason to not get Swiftcast when it's so easily available.

[ArashiDaigon]

Whether or not the OP is "QQ'n" doesn't matter. Even if you know a fight inside and out there is always going to be a percent of error where you may make a mistake or factors beyond your control cause you to die. Regardless Swiftcast is not just for raise, it's for all of your abilities which effectively increases your HPS. There's no reason to not get Swiftcast when it's so easily available.

Again, as SCH I cannot add THM abilities, so I cannot even have Swiftcast as of right now. I need to see once I level THM to 26 to see if suddenly I can, which I highly doubt. As for WHM, using any abilities that make an instant cast is always a plus, but I don't think it's a mandatory spell, as perhaps their play-style works better with different sets and abilities.

[cfStatic]

Whether or not the OP is "QQ'n" doesn't matter. Even if you know a fight inside and out there is always going to be a percent of error where you may make a mistake or factors beyond your control cause you to die. Regardless Swiftcast is not just for raise, it's for all of your abilities which effectively increases your HPS. There's no reason to not get Swiftcast when it's so easily available.

OP brought a specific example when he created the thread. If you die, and it's not an unavoidable mechanic, you've done something wrong. This only becomes more true as you start raiding as well. Yes, Swiftcast is very strong, is a great utility spell, and most definitely is something that should be picked up. However, if you're wiping and the only thing that is going to make a difference is a WHM with swiftcast, there are bigger problems afoot than your WHM not having it.

[Loxius]

Scholars get skills from Conjurer and Thaumaturge so you should be able to add them, so look again on your cross-skills abilities.

[Jynxii]

Pretty sure I mentioned this earlier, but there is a difference between not having the skill yet, and refusing to get it all together. I'm pretty sure no one is in the latter category, although some may choose to take longer to get there. Eitherway, if you're a solid healer, not having swift cast isn't going to make you into some super baddy. If DPS fail at positioning it isn't your fault.

What DPS need to take into account is every time they screw up and get hit by something they shouldn't, that is healing (and mana) taken away from the tanks, or mechanics that NEED the healer's attention/resources. Is it the healer's fault for 'mismanaging' their mana because they had to revive 6 times throughout the battle and constantly heal that one guy that couldn't avoid an AoE if his life depended on it. Should the healer divert heals from the tank, potentially letting them die, to keep up the derpy dps?

Got to love the "All about me" DPS players that think they are friggen rock stars.

[tukuiPat]

Any logical person that doesn't get "mandatory" cross-class abilities is probably thinking that if almost everyone is wasting their time getting this ability, then there is gonna be a high chance it will be nerfed, because if something is 100% "mandatory" for doing your job successfully it's most likely going to be smacked into next Tuesday with the nerf bat making it so become pointless.

[AdactusNex]

A swiftcasted raise is probably the most useful thing a white mage could possibly do at Endgame, among the many other uses for Swiftcast. Yet almost everysingle time I go into DF, the White Mage never has Swiftcast, and we wipe. Everytime the WHM does have swiftcast, we win, coincidence? I think not.

You should not be healing endgame with a WHM at all until you learn Swiftcast. If you don't know this ability, you are holding back your team. Does anybody else agree? Is Swiftcast a vitally important ability for a White Mage to have? What are your thoughts?

All I see in this is a player that probably dies at some point in his battles BC he can't manage his own threat and doesn't like laying there BC ur job is not essential to the battle. Die with dignity and hush up. If u and ur party are doing ur jobs right and avoiding aoe u won't need raise.

[ghondon]

A swiftcasted raise is probably the most useful thing a white mage could possibly do at Endgame, among the many other uses for Swiftcast. Yet almost everysingle time I go into DF, the White Mage never has Swiftcast, and we wipe. Everytime the WHM does have swiftcast, we win, coincidence? I think not.

You should not be healing endgame with a WHM at all until you learn Swiftcast. If you don't know this ability, you are holding back your team. Does anybody else agree? Is Swiftcast a vitally important ability for a White Mage to have? What are your thoughts?

Though swiftcast raise is very usefull. I find that I use swiftcast medica II far more often. There are many times that you are on the move say in fights like garuda and swiftcast medica II is priceless. WHM without Swiftcast should not be doing HM primals (this also include surecast). WHM are not alone though I think every class has near requried cross class abilities.

[Niroken]

Just a question - Is Swiftcast useable only for magic classes or can non magic classes use it as well?