If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you are holding back your team at endgame

[Brises]

I'm not trying to tell you that you CAN'T attempt it, and I'm not even demeaning your ability as a healer. However, I still feel you would be a far more effective WHM/SCH if you have Swiftcast in your arsenal for end-game. That's the long and short of it.

No kidding. But I'm just saying it's a game and nothing wrong with trying something if you aren't ready.

[Dorin]

Wow all those healers going all "If I have to res you it's your fault".

Well of course it might be my fault, but freaking swiftcast+res me anyway, or what are you going to do, stare at my corpse while the party gets wiped? Why are you a healer again?

Everyone can die eventually for a huge lot of different reasons, some of them not being even their own fault but someone else's.

Mistakes happen, your role is good at fixing those mistakes. Play a healer properly or don't play it at all.

[Tigerwong]

Swiftcast is important but not for raise. I would only imagine a boss mechanic with an AOE damage aura plus red circles to avoid, forcing so much pressure on the healer, that a swift cast AOE heal would actually be vital for the group to survive.

It's two totally different situations when YOU need the healer's Swiftcast, vs when HE needs a Swiftcast for his heals.

[Arjuna_Deluna]

I happen to be a lvl 50 WHM who has Swiftcast and, yeah, it's really helpful. Here's what I think bothers end game healers or maybe just healers in general, however...

DPS / DD is, very simply, the easiest role in any mmo. It takes a distinct lack of competence to fail at DPS. Meanwhile, tanking and healing require a varying (usually high) degree of attention and skill that DPS / DD simply don't demand. When players who refuse to play tanks / healers (probably in large part due to the focus, attention, and experience those roles require) start telling others what they HAVE to do...it comes across as pretty petulant. Maybe that's not fair and maybe I'm not even accurately tracking why most healers / tanks respond to criticism the way they do, but that's my guess.

A party stays up because it is coordinated, the tank is able maintain hate, the DDs are dodging the avoidable stuff and letting the tank keep hate, and the healer is on their game. It is absolutely best practice for a healer to have Swiftcast to get off Raise but I don't see many threads started by healers talking about how all DDs need to get Stoneskin / Featherfoot / Second Wind / Blood Bath / whatever so they can keep their damn selves up, right? So maybe as a community people could just stop telling each other how to do their roles.

[Vantwan]

Having 10+ minute boss fights with 8 people and someone is bound to make a mistake at some point unless everyone is super focused and the planets align. Being able to instantly cast a healing/resurrection spell can mean the difference between defeating the boss and having to start from scratch.

Is swiftcast mandatory? Probably not.

Should you get it as soon as possible and if not, at some point in the future? Definitely. There's no reason not to get an insanely powerful skill to add to your arsenal of abilities.

[Dorin]

Don't blame the healer for your fuck ups.

You must be another one of those living in Perfect-land, an imaginary utopic world where everything is always perfect; tanks never lose their aggro on targets, DPS never pull mobs and perfectly dodge every single AOE attack, and healers don't even have resurrection spells in their hotbars because they never get to use them.

Well guess what, in the real world, and especially in PUGs, sometimes mistakes happens, and if you as a healer refuse to fix said mistakes while having the opportunity to do so, you're a bad healer. End of.

What do you want, everything to go perfect so you can set a macro to auto-heal the tank and go drink a cup of tea?

My god...

[EvokerKeii]

Swiftcast is easily the most broken spell in the game. Every magic class/job should be using it.

[Arjuna_Deluna]

You must be another one of those living in Perfect-land, an imaginary utopic world where everything is always perfect; tanks never lose their aggro on targets, DPS never pull mobs and perfectly dodge every single AOE attack, and healers don't even have resurrection spells in their hotbars because they never get to use them.

Well guess what, in the real world, and especially in PUGs, sometimes mistakes happens, and if you as a healer refuse to fix said mistakes while having the opportunity to do so, you're a bad healer. End of.

What do you want, everything to go perfect so you can set a macro to auto-heal the tank and go drink a cup of tea?

My god...

You're proving my point about coming off as petulant.

[Dorin]

Petulant. What.

Your logic is just broken, you're putting words there that I didn't say. Nobody blames the healer for the DPS's death, but if a DPS dies, what is the healer going to do? If he can raise that DPS no problem, why is he not going to do so? He's not going to do so because the DPS sucks, according to your logic.

It's your logic that annoys me, it's plain nonsense. You're calling everyone who dies bad. I won't even waste my time anymore because elitists like you are all the same.

They're all THAT arrogant.

[Arjuna_Deluna]

Swiftcast is easily the most broken spell in the game. Every magic class/job should be using it.

So here's the thing; you're definitely right.

There is just a big difference between someone saying, "Hey, you know what? We should probably all have Swiftcast because wtf that ability is a lifesaver!" and saying, "Hey, I'm a DPS and it makes me sad when I pull hate or don't bother to dodge an AoE attack. WHMs should gtfo if they don't have the ability I want them to have!!"