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  1. #11
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    Uncuddly's Avatar
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    Ibi'to Ehada
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 56
    Swiftcast is even more valuable for Summoners and Scholars. Singling out White Mages suggests that you don't really know what you're talking about.
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    Noroi Kisaragi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncuddly View Post
    Swiftcast is even more valuable for Summoners and Scholars. Singling out White Mages suggests that you don't really know what you're talking about.
    The only thing it signals is that i'm talking about White Mages in this topic. Is a summoner or scholar a white mage? I'm not sure you know what you're talking about in this thread. This topic's about white mages that expect their team to carry them to victory with minimized healing potential. When did I say anything about summoners or scholars? Ridiculous.
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    add it to the gearscore requirement when entering dungeons!
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    Chaloutte Avandale
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    Balmung
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    Really this is the truth. While it's imperative that the group avoids death throughout the instance, there will always be that one time that things go bad. A WHM or SCH with Swiftcast + Ressurection/Raise at that point can really spell the difference between a complete wipe, or regaining your group's balance and pushing on.
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    Riley Santara
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    I agree that WHM needs a sort of swiftcast, but forcing all healers to level thaum to 26 is a little unfair imo. They should either get their own swiftcast-esque ability or a separate raise on a longer cooldown that has no cast time.
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  6. #16
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    Chaloutte Avandale
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RileySantara View Post
    I agree that WHM needs a sort of swiftcast, but forcing all healers to level thaum to 26 is a little unfair imo. They should either get their own swiftcast-esque ability or a separate raise on a longer cooldown that has no cast time.
    That's defeating the whole point of cross-class skills though.

    At 50, you really should have a handful of other jobs leveled up for full effective use during end-game anyway. Why would you even attempt it if you're not fully ready for it?
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  7. #17
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    Brises Ravenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyahd View Post
    That's defeating the whole point of cross-class skills though.

    At 50, you really should have a handful of other jobs leveled up for full effective use during end-game anyway. Why would you even attempt it if you're not fully ready for it?
    Why shouldn't you attempt it? It's not like the world is going to end if you try and fail. It's a game after all. That's how you learn. Swiftcast is definitely good to have, but when I hit 50, no way I'm going to wait for another 26 levels before trying endgame.
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  8. #18
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    Chaloutte Avandale
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Brises View Post
    Why shouldn't you attempt it? It's not like the world is going to end if you try and fail. It's a game after all. That's how you learn. Swiftcast is definitely good to have, but when I hit 50, no way I'm going to wait for another 26 levels before trying endgame.
    I'm not trying to tell you that you CAN'T attempt it, and I'm not even demeaning your ability as a healer. However, I still feel you would be a far more effective WHM/SCH if you have Swiftcast in your arsenal for end-game. That's the long and short of it.
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  9. #19
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    Rodek Lesare
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 17
    Quote Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi View Post
    So your excuse for deliberately holding back your healing potential for your team is...."everyone else in my team should get better"? Stop making excuses and learn Swiftcast. It has many uses beyond just raising, and to make excuses to NOT Learn it while still hoping to participate in endgame is going to get you laughed at, nothing more.
    So your excuse for deliberately holding back your DPS potential for your team is..."The WHM should have swiftcast raise"? Stop making excuses and learn to not stand in the fire. It has many uses beyond just damage dealing, and to make excuses to NOT Learn it while still hoping to participate in endgame is going to get you laughed at, nothing more.

    PS: Yes, I think having swiftcast will be mandatory at endgame. But making a PSA for this was unnecessary.
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  10. #20
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    Thunderz Canadia
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    if you don't have swiftcast and your playing WHM... yeah that is pretty gimp

    it is such an important ability...not just for raise but for every moment you need to squeeze a spell right the hell now

    Tank got hit hard and is in the red. Your still dodging stuff Swiftcast -> Cure 2
    Party is taking some real dmg Swiftcast -> Medica 2
    back up WHM is down Swiftcast -> Raise
    etc etc

    Please WHM get this ability
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