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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by reaver84 View Post
    It's kind of plain to see that SE doesn't want everyone to maintain and run every level 50 craft. snip
    Eventually over years numerous ppl will have all crafts at max level. Crafting is not a solution, it is a part of a solution but their needs to be other means to make gil in game. Everyone acts like everyone wants to get rich without having to craft or do anything, in my case I just want to be able to make enough to be able to sustain raiding/end game without having to spend days farming, I actually don't even mind farming if it will net me the gil tfor repairs..
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightParkman View Post
    people generate money all the time with all the accessible leve rewards and countless players producing money from quests and allagan peices. The economy is fine, even so, since when is everyone all of a sudden on board of trying to make the game more community based? just because you don't like it doesn't mean its bad. i just so happen to enjoy the fact that once im level 50, i gotta work hard to keep up with the bills, because this way it will give me the mindset of having to only play with good players, and that good ole' missed ff11 mentality of never wanting to die and play at my A-game. Take this as a good feature of the game because just about everything else in this game holds your hand harder then an over protective mother in a mall.

    stop whining and enjoy the game, of course everyone just wants an excuse to call someone ignorant and stupid because thats just the way how this generation we live in works. But the only truth of the matter is, is that we are all impatient and lazy.just get off your butt and farm gil. Just because your lazy shouldn't have to ruin it for everyone else.

    Another thing.... IF REPAIR BILLS ARE TOO EXPENSIVE THEN MAKE SOME DANG FRIENDS IN THIS "COMMUNITY" THAT CAN REPAIR THE GEAR FOR YOU! ITS MUCHO CHEAPO! GATHER THE DARK MATTERS YOURSELF!
    First of all.... get level 50 before you start talking about the economy and than you will start to understand(why i am even giving you the time of day is only proof of how bored i am). I believe i said this b4 somewhere else but using the excuse of countless people are generating gil has a lot of problems with it and ill break it down

    1.) People cant buy the game atm and servers are locked. This means the amount of new players coming in are non existent

    2.) You logic greatly depends on the amount of people coming in. This is very much like a ponzi scheme where the business(in this case ffxiv's economy) appears to be fine as long as new people keep coming in(which is not happening currently).

    3.) Saying countless players is false because this game is currently not gaining new players.

    4.) Calling people lazy and ignorant only proves that you have no real argument.

    5.) Leves do not generate very much gil and also have a limit. Fates are even less and people run out of quests eventually.

    6.) Take economy 101 and get yourself educated.

    Edit: Do you even know how dark matter is obtained? heres a hint, its not through farming
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    Last edited by Malix; 09-10-2013 at 01:02 PM.

  3. #63
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    OP is playing "tutorial" and telling people what they should do...
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krystal_Storm View Post
    @ OP When you need to spend that entire amount you saved for 2 just items on the black market and you have exhausted all quests you will be in the same boat as the rest of us. The game set up is encouraging all of us to race level our classes just to get what we need rather then contend with market prices. How is that sustainable for the future? Every man and his dog is going to have leveled up all his classes to make ends meet and what are they going to do? Move on...
    No it is, people are just in such a hurry to get to lvl 50 because then they can stand around and do nothing all day .

    Quote Originally Posted by Malix View Post
    First of all.... get level 50 before you start talking about the economy and than you will start to understand(why i am even giving you the time of day is only proof of how bored i am). I believe i said this b4 somewhere else but using the excuse of countless people are generating gil has a lot of problems with it and ill break it down

    1.) People cant buy the game atm and servers are locked. This means the amount of new players coming in are non existent

    2.) You logic greatly depends on the amount of people coming in. This is very much like a ponzi scheme where the business(in this case ffxiv's economy) appears to be fine as long as new people keep coming in(which is not happening currently).

    3.) Saying countless players is false because this game is currently not gaining new players.

    4.) Calling people lazy and ignorant only proves that you have no real argument.

    5.) Leves do not generate very much gil and also have a limit. Fates are even less and people run out of quests eventually.

    6.) Take economy 101 and get yourself educated.

    Edit: Do you even know how dark matter is obtained? heres a hint, its not through farming
    I have 100k Gil from leves (you know there are 3 different kinds - some are better than others for Gil) now to the important part - you are lazy. I do not need to state a plethora of things to know that you are just plain lazy.. It's obvious for all the people that have played FFXIV 1.0 and FFXI that you are all.. Incredibly lazy.
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    Last edited by WiiTee; 09-11-2013 at 04:13 AM.

  5. #65
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    Edit: just gonna drop this link here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ed-tomorrow%21 and sign off with /thread
    repair cost were the issue and that issue has been addressed.
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    Last edited by TitusAldin; 09-11-2013 at 04:28 AM.

  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-game-economy

    It really is crying about personal insolvency, not an underlying problem with the game itself. There is no evidence to back up reports that there are problems with the economy...
    Where did this thread go? I think it was the long, well thought out one I was reading this morning. I didn't get to finish it ><.
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  7. #67
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    Striopach A'aingidh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-game-economy

    It really is crying about personal insolvency, not an underlying problem with the game itself. There is no evidence to back up reports that there are problems with the economy...
    S-E seems to agree that the repair costs are too high...

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1232837
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightParkman View Post
    yeah i figured i would see this excuse "cuz im not level 50 yet" but if i was level 50, i would make sure my crafting class was also level 50, which would undoubtly mean more money would be made, balancing out the higher repair bills, so no, that excuse is not valid. People just need to stop being lazy. Try not taking this as an attack, but as a friendly suggestion of help..

    @Usotsuki

    Well its part of the game, if you dont like it, then this game isnt for you.
    Oh so now those who have no interest in crafting should just quit? where is dislike button for idiotic posts like these? I beg you stop talking nonsense.
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    Okay analogy time. You're watching the news with your family or friends or whatever. On it, the anchor says "The DOW dropped 1.2% today due to poor employment numbers." You then respond "Oh, the economy's fine! I have a job." Your friends/family/whatever would then look at you like you're fucking retarded. That's how we're looking at you now.

    When people talk about the deflation, they're not talking about personal economics. They're talking macroeconomics. The economy as a whole. Individuals are irrelevant in such a discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    i stoped reading right there.....
    I was thinking about it, but i was compelled to read on to confirm that the OP is clueless about the current economy situation. i stop reading here:

    Quote Originally Posted by DwightParkman View Post
    i have made over 150,000 Gil without heavy effort just by basic high Quality crafting sales through one class.
    I have made about 250k gil, personally by selling junk on the AH, but that doesn't change the fact that in doing so that 12500 gil has left the economy.
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