Heals for Scholors need a buff

[Valiant]

Medica II's HP Regen is 100 and Regen's is 150 per GCD. So that's 250 points of healing per GCD compared to a 300 potency (900 on Crit) shield per GCD. Discounting the 3~s cast time on Medica II, using Adlo is significantly superior to Cure spamming with Regens up. This is discounting the Faerie and the fact that a WHM can easily go OOM doing this, while a SCH can do it forever.

Stop reading the spells and try it out... you heal more than the shield prevents... and i have tried it with 2 whms... both regen effects of both whms STACK.. sorry but thats alot better in a pinch than 1 600 shield or only a chance of that being better... and any whm worth their salt knows how to properly manipulate their mana pools

[Alaltus]

As a Scholar i struggled to main heal the first boss in Aurum Vale until i learned the key to main healing that fight. Adloquiem. It will push your mp to the limit, but with it and aetherflow and energy drain you can keep everyone's hp up. Use the hp shield to absorb the poison damage of your fellow players. Forget your fairy she's dead weight in that fight.

[Burstwolf]

Whoa there Tonto. I'm glad to see your entry level experiences at 30 can speak for 99% of the issues facing the job.... The Dungeons up to level 35 could probably be healed by a black mage spamming Physick. You on the other hand can't attest to the effectiveness of Succor/Leeches because not only do you not have them, you aren't even doing content that would require them (or even remote control over the fairy).

Most of the issues being brought up here are in regards to our diminishing performance as encounter difficulty scales upwards.

WHO there elitist..Maybe you missed the part where i said i couldn't account for thatDidnt see 99 issues with class posted here. Also stated i read everyones comments and the thing i could see i had no problem with.Reading comprehension goes a long way..Try to keep your mind open just becasue you lvl your character doesn't make you the know all.

[Lebeau]

WHO there elitist..Maybe you missed the part where i said i couldn't account for thatDidnt see 99 issues with class posted here. Also stated i read everyones comments and the thing i could see i had no problem with.Reading comprehension goes a long way..Try to keep your mind open just becasue you lvl your character doesn't make you the know all.

I'm far from an elitist. My "level" allows me to speak from a point of experience.

When a level 50 ACN says that they are suffering from throughput issues, it's because they're doing level appropriate content that highlights this as a massive weakness for the job. Writing other players' concerns off as false "QQ", saying "Scholar might need a buff but very small", or claiming that the fairy doesn't need to be controlled completely undermines the people who are actively looking to better our class.

[Miyuyu]

I haven't run into any actual throughput issues, just quality of life issues. Toting your level over someone doesn't prove that you know anything.

[Draemos]

now cast succor and hit the tank the shittier shield is now active... where as if you have 2 whms in a group all their spells stack... i dont currently see SCH in endgame til SE irons the class out

Weaker shields do not overwrite stronger shields. And yes, SCH shields should probably have some mechanics so that having multiple SCHs play better together, although I'm not sure what precisely. Although I can understand from a developers standpoint who is trying to create challenging boss mechanics why they don't stack shields.

Having a single SCH in a party is never a bad thing though. It's fine for right now.

[FinagleABagel]

Most of my successes in post-50 content is with 2 scholars...so I'm not sure you are having issues with. While WHM have nice spikes, their sustain blows and if the battle is protracted your party will look to the scholar to pick up the slack.

[Ninix]

We definitely do not need a heal buff. Our mp regen and sustain is borderline overpowered as it is, and if we were pumping out WHM level heals with the same MP regen, shields, instant cast heals, and fairy, we'd just be broken. Learn to make better use of your shielding abilities and manage MP and aetherflow stacks so you aren't wasting them on energy drain and can use them for more powerful abilities like Sacred Soil and Lustrate.

I've healed up to Garuda HM and AK and have never felt that throughput was an issue, even carrying some pretty bad groups. If there have been situations where I just can't keep up with the healing, it has always been because of a failure to handle fight mechanics either on my part or somebody else's (ie. it was a situation that could have been avoided through better play). But if everyone is on the ball, I can handle the healing pretty easily. It takes pretty big screwups to get into a situation where SCH heals just can't keep up except on a few fights that have less room for error.

The only thing I really want on Scholar is better pet management. The AI needs to either be way better than it is now, or I need to be able to turn it off altogether and micromanage the fairy exactly how I want. That means being able to use pet abilities in macros as well as issue pet commands while I'm in the middle of casting my own spells. The way it is now, the AI is just too flaky (especially for the longer cool down spells and buffs) and issuing orders manually is very inconvenient.

[Burstwolf]

My "level" allows me to speak from a point of experience.

When a level 50 ACN says that they are suffering from throughput issues, Writing other players' concerns off as false "QQ", saying "Scholar might need a buff but very small".

Your speaking as a ELITIST.Have you read the other treads scholar with 50 who also sts it doesnt need a big buff. Let me correct you with the words your putting in my mouth.1) SOME of the QQ ,class heals are split between shield and pet so comparing it to a whm is wrong.2)AS Of NOW I DON'T see the need to FULLY control as other 50 sts it just needs better AI.

3)lvl difference of 1 fairy spell what changes Ai at 50?4)I cant account for endgame(SAID IT3xNOW MR ELITE) but i can account for people who try to break a door down before using the knob.5)Not everybody plays a class the same6)I stated my OPINION from what i played and read I dont speak for the community and nether do you(undermine)

[Rainsford]

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I'm still not sure why you're comparing 2 WHM's to the shield of one SCH. A SCH using Adlo + faerie will heal more on a single target (and prevent a good chunk of damage) than a WHM spamming Cure with both Regen's up, and the WHM will run out of mp long before the SCH does. This is from post-50 gameplay and just simple reading of the potency of the heals/effects. If you cast both Regens on a tank and the boss gets stunned/misses, those Regen ticks are wasted. As long as the tank gets hit again in 30 seconds, Adlo gets its full potency.

You're right that, as it stand, 2 SCH's can be redundant in pugs. But 2 coordinated SCHs who do things like time Fey Illumination so it never overlaps and make sure they have separate Adlo priorities so shields never go to waste will do much better than 2 coordinated WHM's.